Who said 100-200 2-7 was going on? Or going to run?

What? I've played at Fortune for awhile and haven't run into this.

It's just the 1/3 game

Been to Fortune to play their 1/3 twice in the last week.

regarding parking, i found out that if the lot is full, you can park at the motel parking next door and they wont tow. (though i didn't test that theory - i felt like i had won the jackpot by finding a parking spot on my second time around the lot)

players are friendly, staff and dealers are friendly. -- i appreciate the player discount on the food.

I've been splashing too many pots so my profit has been minimal (about $350 in 2 sessions). -- your premium hands will get paid off in this game.

I would like this game better if they had a $500 max buy-in .. or even $1000 .. but when i began conversation with staff about the max buy they were pretty dismissive, telling me how a $300 buy is the best way to go for this game to get action. -- so i doubt any feedback is being sought at the moment.

During my 2 sessions, i'd say that about 2/3 the players buy in for the limit -- and the other 1/3 get between $100 per buy

Floor staff at Fortune, talked to the host (player trying to start it) as well.


THIS! Just 1 table only of like a 200-1k buy in. It's going to happen someday so why not now? Particularly on a day when all tables are going so preservation won't be an issue, like Friday, say noon w/9am call in to get boarded? It'll pull even more muckleshoot players too..

Sounds like they're wise not to let weak players get in over their heads, at least not until we've established whether the site can support a deeper NLHE game. I know that slaughtering everyone for the max possible in the first week of deep stack hold'em sounds like a lot of fun, but winning players are really better off with sustainable games that produce somewhat less expectation in the short term.

Where that balance is, I don't know. But Fortune is wise if they're mindful of it. And anyway, it's not the house's job to maximize expert players' earn if it means they drop less rake (which will happen if the game flames out in one glorious burst of free money).

We'll see what's sustainable.

You can shear a sheep many times, but you can skin it only once. Amarillo Slim

Now that non-tribals are starting to spread "spread" games, landscape of poker is literally changing in front of our very eyes.

FWIW, I do feel like it's early/mid 2000's again with all these new players moving into NL, and therefore it is even more important to not slaughter them so quickly.

I've heard this multiple times, but 1/3 is a pretty cheap game .. and the difference between buying in $300 or $500 is pretty small to a bankroll ..

$1000 would be a difference.. but i think there are plenty of people at Fortune with deep pockets that can sustain such a game..

I know that I play better with a bigger stack (just because it would hurt more to loose $1000 than $300) -- $300 max stacks gets boring .. and I'm not sure I have the patience to grind out those games.

I'm not a good player - i just like games with more money on the table -- super tilting to have to play against folks who have $100 in front of them waiting for a pocket pair.

as you consider what is right for the small stakes NLHE games, I'm probably one of the target demographic .. (1) - play recreationally (about 3 sessions a month) .. (2) no set bankroll, i just bring 2 to 3 buyins per session .. (3) just there to have a good time, care more about the experience, than showing a profit.

I dont know very much about how a game sustains itself, and whether its more about recreational players or daily customers who come in to drop one buyin per day.

Fortune as a card-room has some much higher games than the 1/3 (i'd say the 1/3 is almost at the bottom of the totem pole as far as cost) -- just consider what it takes to keep the 10/20 going .. or the 10/20/40 game .. and they have a list most nights.

Who can we talk to about that type of game .. i'd play in that in a heartbeat.

MIX GAME NEWS....... @ FORTUNE POKER

The mix game has been very popular at Fortune on Wednesday night and Sunday mornings.

We are going to try a earlier start on Wednesday this week by players request.

The talk among the players is that they want to start at noon Wednesday....Lets do it.

We will also continue to have the 7pm start for our late arriving guests.

We will have two start times and you may call in to reserve a seat for both games starting at 8am Wednesday morning....NOT 7:58am...lol

Players that call to reserve a seat and don't arrive when the game start will be removed from the list...

Thank you to all the mixed game players and hope to see new faces every week.

I don't know what 10/20 or 10/20/40 mean. Are you referring to the blind structure of the limit hold em games? In LHE the size of the game is referred to by the bet size--so to top LHE game would be called 20/40, either with or without a mandatory straddle.

The difference is, LHE is a game where bad players might have winning days 25% or more of the time. Those occasional wins keep them coming back--see variable reinforcement schedule, same psychological principle as a slot machine or checking Facebook every 30 seconds.

In NLHE those wins are fewer and farther between. Often they'll hit a couple of lucky hands, run their original $300 or $500 up to $800, and stay long enough to give it back to the good players who are also deep stacked. If a bad player wins only rarely, unless they're insanely wealthy, it's hard for poker to keep being fun.

So yes, there's more money on the table in a $20/40 LHE game but there's also a substantial chance the weak player might take money home.

That said I have no idea how much disposable income in Renton there is to support NLHE. The Southern CA card barns there have pretty low buyin limits at the low stakes NLHE, and that's also an area with some poker money. At first blush I'd trust Fortune management to make that judgment, but they could be wrong. Time will tell.

.. sorry i brain-farted when i described the games.. i was talking about the 20/40 and 20/40 with mandatory straddle LHE games.

I do think its exciting that new games are popping up, and that the landscape of Seattle NLHE is changing. As you said time will tell what works and what doesn't.

After playing the Fortune 1/3 for a few sessions, I think I'm going back to the 3/5 at the Muck.

I have played in Fortune's 1/3 game many times since it started and many of the 20/40 players have sat in the game at one point or another. Now most of them will rather sit and wait or play 8/16 than to play in 1/3 game. Just the other day, one of the 20/40 regs cashed out a busted 20/40 game to sit in 1/3, and after about an hour, he picked up and went to play 8/16 limit instead.

These guys realized that they don't really know much about bet sizing and that nature of the NL/spread game is much tighter and slower than limit, so now very few of them actually venture into 1/3.

Every so often I would see limit players playing 1/3, but most of them do actually stay in limit. So in a way, it is very good for Fortune that it keeps the existing limit player base while attracting new player base that would not otherwise play in Fortune without 1/3.

FWIW, the game is definitely slowing down quite a bit during weekday afternoons. I think soon enough, it will just become an afternoon nit fest and the game structure plus rake will make it too difficult to really beat it.

Sounds like many of the Fortune sheep have been butchered instead of sheared.

Caribbean in Kirkland is spreading 3 tables with 10 people on the wait list for Friday night.

3 tables of what?

LOL oops. 3 tables of 1/3 with 10 people on the list. Other 3 tables were limit.

Wow I didn't know they were offering that.

Game has to be worth checking out. Also curious about their limit action - anything bigger than 4/8?

The 4/8 usually runs with a full kill. Every once in awhile a 6-12 or 8-16 will go, but rare.

Caribbean also has 5-40 Omaha (hi) on Mondays 7p-daylight that's jammin. It's an 'invite' game though because it was formally a home game that moved to the casino; so if regulars show up non-regulars have to give up their seat. They get 2 games about every other Monday.

Friday they offer 5-300 'PLO', starting around 7pm as well.

FYI the Muckleshoot spring poker classic is underway.

http://muckleshootcasino.com/core/fi...2017%20(3).pdf

NL

Thurs $200 4k added
Fri $300 +5k
Sat $500 +10k
Sun $750 +20k

has it been busy? Wondering if i need to show up early tomorrow morning to reg the $500

Show up early, i got there at noon and there were only 6 spots left!

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