Are u planning to play 2/2nl($100max) or 2/3nl ($300 max)? I think on most nights including most middle of the weeknights, both games break down sometime in the early am (3 - 6am). I don't know when you can expect them to start up exactly, bit for sure they get going in the morning. There is a daily 10am tourney that kick starts the cash tables too.

I don't know what the rake is at 2/2nl , but the 2/3 game is 4+1. The game is definitely beatable, just don't open limp or the pots get raped by the rake.

Bonuses include $500 every hour on Sundays plus the racing for dollars promotion that pays you based on the number of hours you accumulate. See the podium people to get a players cardand get started.

i suppose i would end up playing 2/3 nl...but wow 4+1? is that on any pot? even ones under 20$?

Thanks! I have been favoring Viejas lately, I play more tourneys than live but if I need any help I will shoot you a PM!

I used to be a regular there, logging 3 days a week of 12+ hour sessions. That little thing with no free wings tilted me to the point I won't go back.

Easy game, just like being able to get free things online with decent win rates.

4+1 is pretty standard for North County....

Yes. For every hand that goes to the flop.
Oh, and as far as the BBJ, the qualifiers are aces full of tens or better beaten by quads or better. Both hole cards must play. There are select dAys / times that the BBJ is artificially inflated to $50k.

foster-
you check it out yet?

the biggest action player who is a semi-reg in the 5/5nl game played last night. and when i say action, i'm talking crazy spewiness. in a $1500 max game, i think he went through about $7k last night playing about 95% vpip, 98% pfr, 90% c-bet. "pre-flop raise" being a relative term for this gentleman -- his standard was $110 to go, but he would make it anywhere from $55 to $210 to go before the flop (with $10 in the pot!) pretty much guaranteeing himself action only when he was beat. he did win some pretty sick pots** but in the end left broke.

** $2k pot with J4o vs TT on a J73 flop.
** $2.1k pot with 77 vs my AQ on a Q74r board. impossible to fold with tptk.
** $1800 pot with 24cc vs. A4o. all the money went in on the flop of A28. 2 on river.


also, he lost a $7.2k pot with 95 vs KK on a KJ9 flop. there was already $1k in the pot pre and he shoved the flop and was snapped by the set of Ks.

wow. pretty fun though. and i have to say i enjoy his stevie wonder and earth wind and fire singing after he wins a pot.

I know exactly who you are talking about. Enjoy the gift that he showers upon you guys. One of these days, we'll have the 100/200 running when he shows up and maybe he'll play some high-stakes limit with us.

1. he played 40 w overs last night for a while b4 getting bored and going back to 5 5

2. mentioning the existence of a plyr like this on the internet is so bad. do u want the 10k+ he is guaranteed to lose every time he plays to be split among 5 winning plyrs next time he comes in instead of 4? it doesnt matter much to me but ur potentially robbing urself of a lot of money. there are not a lot of ppl like this left in the poker world and when one of them is giving me action i keep my mouth shut until i get every penny i can out of them, and then usually keep my mouth shut anyway.

btw oceans 11 is allowed to spread razz apparently, i was misinformed before.

i completely agree howmany. but like i said, he is a semi-reg meaning he really only throws these chip parties about once every 2-3 weeks or so. maybe even less often. so it would be pretty difficult to make use of the fact that he does play at oceans 11 unless someone just played every day waiting for him to show up.

i actually thought about not posting anything about it, but then thought that maybe we'll get more people thrill seeking and juicing up the game.

maybe i'm wrong.

dont think ur gonna find any thrill seekers that come to the game cuz of this thread, just a bunch of random tagfish that would accidentally become huge winning plyrs if said fish was in the game. its one of those things that is pretty unlikely to hurt you but is basically guaranteed not to benefit you, and if it does end up hurting it could hurt a lot. ie im not very good at nl but i can promise you do not want me in a game with him bc i dont care how many times he busts my 1500 buyin i will keep reloading until every chip is mine and i will never hesitate to aipf him any time i am a favorite vs his almost random hand. i wouldve played w him every time he was at the casino i just didnt realize that he was literally a 100+bb/100 loser until last night when i finally got to play w him.

Here is Oceans 11 filing with the attorney general division of gambling control if you want to see what supposedly all of their rules and games they are allowed to spread. They break so many of their own rules it is laughably funny.

http://ag.ca.gov/gambling/pdfs/oceanseleven.pdf

Hi All, I am in San Diego on business and I was wondering which poker room has the best medium stakes (like between 10-20 and 40-80) limit hold em and\or mixed games. I'm planning on spending Friday - Sunday playing so any advice which be much appreciated. Thanks!

Looks like you found a good 20 game on fri, sorry i wasn't there today but will be there sun. bright and early. best wishes ^.^

i haven't been to viejas in a very, very long time, not since they moved the poker room downstairs
but a friend of mine went this friday night and told me there was a 1 2 PLO game going
can anyone confirm?
any more info on this?
thanks

Attempted robbery at Lucky Lady Sunday morning.

http://www.cbs8.com/global/story.asp?s=12415944

Multiple reports of 1-2 PLO game. Didn't see it for myself, but two people confirm, one dealer and one player.

is there any reason they would choose to rob the piece of **** that is the lucky lady when like 2 miles down the same street there is the palomar that has probably the biggest most consistent game in the entire country right now?

Most criminals are really stupid. Why try to knock a place off when they just opened ten minutes ago? Nobody in that room at that time of day has any money in their pocket, almost literally. In general criminals are too stupid to realize that getting a job is safer and easier.

Is the "Big Game" at Palomar that well known? It is strange, I was visiting Commerce a few days ago. The biggest NL game they had going when I was there, with their almost 300 tables, would almost always be the third biggest game going at the seven table Palomar Club.

its not well known unless you play high stakes poker but when there are 2 casinos on the same street it seems like robbing the one with microstakes games probably isnt the best idea and it would take all of 30 seconds of research to find out which casino has more money. but everyone at the palomar is really nice so its for the best that the lucky lady was robbed, who cares about that dump?

Btw-
the 10/10nl game at oceans has now morphed into a 10/20nl game. (obv no cap). Game started about 1:30 today. Last week there were 2 full tables all night.

PLO list is started for today's game too.

how does the 10/10 or 10/20 game at oceans play?

The 10/20 is playing somewhat tougher than the 10/10 played.
Some of the players who normally would play 10/10 are now only playing 5/5 ...
they were usually good for the game.
The new players that the 10/20 format has attracted are mostly pretty solid.

The 10/10 plays relatively more aggressive than the 5/5nl as you would expect. 3bets are much more common with hands like 77 and aq. I'd say most in the 10/10 buy $2k to $4k in chips with some outliers buying 10k+. When certain players are in the game, it tends to play deeper. I haven't played the new 10/20 nl game (yet), so I can't really comment on it, except to say that most of the players who did play the 10/10 are now playing the 10/20. Some theorize that oceans 11 is trying to gain market share from palomar.

I loves me some 1/1 at Ocean's 11.

Hey, don't knock it. I'm a poor law student and I can make some serious money for a very little investment!