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Originally Posted by Jinxed_Choker
When you look at graphs to find out where the bulk of most of your wins come from it is FROM Non Showdown winnings. When Non Showdowns are practically nullified due to the high volume of players per flop there is no way to recoup this lost $ in this game.
7+ Players to a flop and adjust? I guess adjust to the high variance and while in the spiral of the high variance get raked to death...makes perfect sense and is a great recepie and is an optimal gamestate for crushing. If I was a winning 3/6 player I would be irate at the high rake...not defending it but instead you are here defending the room and missing my first post that had ideas to make the room better...instead you went on a spew of a debate saying you were crushing a live 3/6 LHE game while being a smartass--THATS my problem.
You don't play limit do you? My guess is you're a NL player.
While I won't argue the non showdown winnings are great, and to a degree important, they are not as important in low limit hold em. Why? Well, rarely do you get a non showdown win in 3/6. But here's the thing, THAT'S NOT A BAD THING! Value betting the hell out of people time and time again, knowing they'll pay you off with inferior holdings everytime is much cooler, and more imporant than winning a pot without showdown. I'd kill to find a game that's 7 players to the flop.
I agree with you that the rake is brutal in games this low. But there is evidence that some players are beating it over the long run. Sure, they are few and far between, but it can be, and is being, done.
The real problem is that a room needs to make money, and to make enough to make the space profitable they need to charge the rake. It's not going to go down until people stop playing because of it. Good luck getting everyone to quit. And if that that should happen, they'll just fill the space with slot machines. The rake is the rake, and there's no way around it if you want to play in a casino.