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05-04-2020 , 06:54 AM
Maybe many of you have already seen this, but here's the article from CP.com, indicating Vegas' intentions for their reopening, and the mitigation efforts they're taking...
https://www.cardplayer.com/poker-new...casinos-reopen

4-max poker games (almost certainly means no tournaments)
4-max Roulette, 6-max Craps, 3-max Blackjack
50% capacity for all gaming areas
Removing of stools/chairs for every other slot machine
Also will be largely "killing" Keno lounges and Sportsbooks for the time being, as they won't allow congregating of groups in areas
No dayclubs/nightclubs
No mention of restaurants, though I'd imagine sit-down restaurants will remain closed
Requirement for employees to wear PPE and sanitize hands during breaks

This would obviously be the first phase, and no indication of how long it would last.
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05-04-2020 , 09:32 AM
In case some of you folks somehow missed this post...

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Originally Posted by Lattimer
Can you folks at least *try* to keep discussions remotely related to the specific casino this thread is about? There are at least a half dozen dedicated coronavirus threads on this site you can participate in if you want to discuss other regions or on the national level.
ravens and dave, I feel your posts would be better served in the CCP coronavirus thread, since they apply to just about every poker room.
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05-04-2020 , 11:22 AM
Noted.

I do think the Vegas plan link I posted is relevant, as it could be a barometer for MGM's overall US-wide strategy for reopening.

I found the 4-max poker games interesting. I guess we all just assumed 6-max was the way they'd go, but if you think about it, that's still 7 people at what is normally a 10 (or 11 at some venues) person table (including dealer).

I guess if the idea is to have an "empty chair" between players at essentially all gaming tables, that would essentially only allow for you to have 4 players (likely seats 2,4,6,8).

My thought is... if 4-max poker is really the opening volley, I'm not even sure many rooms will get off the ground. NH will probably still do fine, but I personally wouldn't really enjoy a 4-max game. 4-max 1-3 NL at NH would be brutal.
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05-04-2020 , 07:47 PM
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Originally Posted by ravens23
My thought is... if 4-max poker is really the opening volley, I'm not even sure many rooms will get off the ground. NH will probably still do fine, but I personally wouldn't really enjoy a 4-max game. 4-max 1-3 NL at NH would be brutal.
All history not withstanding?

It seems like they had dealer scheduling/list management issues when there were 10 people allowed at a table. How in the world are they going to manage 4 person tables? The lists will be 300 deep.

You think dealers were calling out sick on regular days or on tournaments because they werent getting tipped enough or what they felt was appropriate? How are they going to feel when there are only 4 people at the table and 3 of them are nits?

I can see limited players at table games but at poker? No way / no thanks.

Besides, to ensure social distancing I would think they would have to remove multiple tables as it is - given how close the seats are to each other. Even with only 4 players per table, you'd still have people within a foot or two of the person at the next table - even if they staggered them.
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05-05-2020 , 07:49 AM
If the poker games are four-handed, will there be reduced rake?
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05-05-2020 , 01:44 PM
Would lucky table promotion double per seat since there about half as many players per table
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05-05-2020 , 02:36 PM
FYI: @MGMNH_Poker: To our valued players:
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05-05-2020 , 02:44 PM
The BBj was around 130k (I think) when MGM closed down.
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05-05-2020 , 02:46 PM
I’m still holding like 1.2k in chips that I didn’t get to cash before it shut down. It’s like a savings account right now.


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05-05-2020 , 03:03 PM
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Originally Posted by DCJ001
If the poker games are four-handed, will there be reduced rake?
Isn't 4-handed Nevada regulations? The room reopening in Florida is 6-handed.
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05-05-2020 , 03:20 PM
I don’t see many rooms spreading 4 handed poker. I think 6 handed is a better compromise.


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05-05-2020 , 04:08 PM
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Originally Posted by jacmrose
I’m still holding like 1.2k in chips that I didn’t get to cash before it shut down. It’s like a savings account right now.


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It’s like a savings account at a bank that is closed.
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05-05-2020 , 04:10 PM
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Originally Posted by jacmrose
I don’t see many rooms spreading 4 handed poker. I think 6 handed is a better compromise.


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You would like to have space between some of the people at the table, but not all of them?
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05-05-2020 , 04:50 PM
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Originally Posted by DCJ001
You would like to have space between some of the people at the table, but not all of them?

I honestly don’t think 4,6,9 handed makes a difference in the grand scheme of things. Everyone is touching the cards and chips and if you are concerned with the amount of space you have at the poker room you are probably better off staying at home. I think that when it comes to recreational activities (like a casino) it should either be 100% open or closed. Reducing capacity looks good on paper but I’m not sure it’s going to keep anyone safer.


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05-05-2020 , 05:31 PM
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Originally Posted by jacmrose
Reducing capacity looks good on paper but I’m not sure it’s going to keep anyone safer.
Actually some sort of phased opening is exactly whats going to keep people safer. Casinos, like any other large business, are going to have to develop reconstitution plans that most likely will be phased in. 25% opening - see if there are flare ups. Increase to 50% - see what happens. Not just casinos, you will see this in large offices, restaurants etc.

Like it or not, if this is how the casinos are going to be allowed to start opening in LV, I'd be stunned if MGM NH was any different or if MD casinos were allowed to go 0% to 100%. My guess is MGM NH will also have reduced hotel capacity when they are allowed to open - I think in Vegas they are starting at 50%. May/probably will see additional measures like temperature screenings/thermal cameras like are being installed at places like Wynn and Palazzo.

Do not expect MGM NH to open and have it just automatically be like before. Or at least I would be absolutely stunned if this was the case.
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05-05-2020 , 10:25 PM
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Originally Posted by dcmidnight
Actually some sort of phased opening is exactly whats going to keep people safer. Casinos, like any other large business, are going to have to develop reconstitution plans that most likely will be phased in. 25% opening - see if there are flare ups. Increase to 50% - see what happens. Not just casinos, you will see this in large offices, restaurants etc.

Like it or not, if this is how the casinos are going to be allowed to start opening in LV, I'd be stunned if MGM NH was any different or if MD casinos were allowed to go 0% to 100%. My guess is MGM NH will also have reduced hotel capacity when they are allowed to open - I think in Vegas they are starting at 50%. May/probably will see additional measures like temperature screenings/thermal cameras like are being installed at places like Wynn and Palazzo.

Do not expect MGM NH to open and have it just automatically be like before. Or at least I would be absolutely stunned if this was the case.
Per the governor it will take a vaccine or FDA approved effective treatment before its open.
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05-05-2020 , 10:28 PM
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Originally Posted by Fluffy68
Per the governor it will take a vaccine or FDA approved effective treatment before its open.

Where did you see that?


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05-06-2020 , 09:20 AM
I applaud all of you guys who will be there when it opens (“first responders”). I think I’ll wait a while and see if there is any thinning of the herd. As someone pointed out, it’s not the social distancing aspect that concerns me so much as the cards and chips.
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05-07-2020 , 09:31 AM
Sigh. Just removed up a bunch of posts. Keep this thread specific to MGMNH. General coronavirus discussion belongs here: https://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/2...abber-1763796/
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05-07-2020 , 09:34 AM
https://twitter.com/johnnygrooms/sta...471044096?s=21

Poll Johnny posted if anyone wants to contribute
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05-07-2020 , 12:24 PM
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Originally Posted by jacmrose
Where did you see that?


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05-07-2020 , 12:37 PM
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Originally Posted by amazinmets73
Isn't 4-handed Nevada regulations? The room reopening in Florida is 6-handed.
Yes. Vegas is the only place I've seen "reported" that's taking this approach. But its also not official either.

I've seen other reports that suggests when the Strip opens up, it won't be every casino either. Over half will remain closed.

Just an example of what MGMNH COULD do, not what they will do. Hogan has a much "tougher" reopening plan than most states, including Vegas, so it wouldn't surprise me if they differed on their strategy.
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05-07-2020 , 12:38 PM
Thinking back to my last session before shutdown, the floor was actively preventing players from wearing masks. Why were they doing this? Seems risky from a liability standpoint. Won’t masks be allowed upon reopen?
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05-07-2020 , 12:41 PM
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Originally Posted by Fluffy68
Per the governor it will take a vaccine or FDA approved effective treatment before its open.
I think the "FDA approved treatment" is sort of the "out", meaning once they have a drug or two that they can sell widely to reduce the effects (not eliminate or prevent the virus), it gives them the ability to proceed.

That may not be as far away as some thing. I think by the end of the Summer at the latest you'll see at least 1-2 approved treatments available via healthcare providers that will have a material impact on the virus.

I think a lot of these Governors will take this hard-line stance on "must have a vaccine before we go full blown", but I think that's all just conjecture for now. They can modify, cancel, change, etc. based on updated circumstances.

If they go through Phase 1 or Phase 2 and are seeing quality results, they'll be more inclined to relax restrictions at a faster rate.
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05-07-2020 , 12:46 PM
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Originally Posted by braceletchaser
Thinking back to my last session before shutdown, the floor was actively preventing players from wearing masks. Why were they doing this? Seems risky from a liability standpoint. Won’t masks be allowed upon reopen?

A lot has changed since then. The WHO and CDC were also telling people not to wear masks. Now I don’t think people will be allowed in without them.


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