Most definitely. We will be doing volume checks, etc , as part of our prep work. The section that will likely house the HL games will be a little different than the rest of the floor.

All things being equal I will play at the room that has music over the one that doesn't. Everyone has their own preferences.

Rapini, I may come across that way which is not my intention. Its possible that I may feel the only way to get my opinion across is to be overly aggressive about it. My apologies this is just an issue that I can truly say negatively effects my quality of life greatly for one reason or another. If the intention is to irritate me as Johnny put it, carry on and keep up the good work. Id like to think Im a valued costumer.... Fwiw everything I've said here had thought put into it. Some people like music and some people hate it, I agree. And I thought about that before ever posted. What I concluded was that its a lot easier for the people who like music to bring their own headphones than it is for people who don't like the music to cancel out the music. I should have mentioned this reasoning in the first place..

I like fish just as mush as you.. Im just asking to meet in the middle somewhere

if it was jazz music or something, sure, who gives a ****.. but listening to an 80s pop playlist on repeat for months on end is a similar cruel and unusual technique..similar to what the CIA uses to interrogate, no?

I wear bose queitcomfort with white noise playing almost half the time im at the table, often times people dont comprehend that I cant hear a word their saying and take offense to me not responding, or they push the subject until I have to pause my white noise app and take off my headphones to answer one yes or no question only to start the whole process over again.

I understand that my opinion is of limited concern on this subject since I will be there everyday anyways, I get it trust me, but I also think its +EV longterm for me to take a few moments and defend my case, regardless if I get my way more often than not or I dont, if that makes sense, I could be wrong I just want to make sure my concerns are acknowledged before everything is set in stone




Just thought of something that could potentially be pretty sweet, a poker room jukebox where players can choose a song for the whole room the hear

I understand what you're saying. I should have put more time and thought into my previous post, so sorry for that and I'll try to make up for that now.

It appears that Johnny is looking to cater to recreational players. That's players like me who come to a casino a few hours every now and then to play cards. You appear to be a professional high-stakes player. I don't believe Johnny is looking to make the room's policies attractive to professional high-stakes players. You're saying you don't want music. Others are saying they do. There's nothing wrong with that.

But comparing music to CIA interrogation is silly and erodes your credibility. Even if Johnny were to play Whip It by Devo on a loop, people would be able to tune it out. And any kind of music is better than the low, dull roar of chips being shuffled when there's no other noise in a room.

As you said, you'll be there every day regardless of what happens with the music, so you're proving the point that recreational / infrequent players are the ones that should be targeted with policies that don't deal with game integrity or gaming laws.

we can use CIA interrogation technique's to gleam info from opponents in Johnny's poker room?
SWEET!

Let me be clear....There will be absolutely no motorboarding....

Superb

did you mean waterboarding (the form of torture -bad) or motor-boating (the activity with strippers-good)

I was making a little joke regarding another very popular thread in NVG....

Disclaimer...I have selective senses, but so far I have interpreted the last several weeks of posts to mean.....

No rake for 6 months.
Music will be played.
Strippers for $1/minute in lieu of masseuses.
And we can use unsavory methods to determine someone's cards during a hand.

Outstanding!

too bad happy endings strippers got nixed.

come on Johnny, be more like MGM Vegas and allow it.
(at least in the high limit room)

I also heard that there is a special Poker Room Suite rate for that.

Confirmed.

Just wanted to say hi Johnny, and thanks for being active in here - I hope that continues after you open and all. We've had one example locally of that being the case, and one of a room manager disappearing on us. You seem like the type that is actually enjoying interacting with all of us on here, which is a good sign.

I'm also glad you're keeping rec players in mind. I hate music in a poker room, but if your research/experience/etc tells you it'll bring/keep more rec players in the room, then have at it in my opinion.

I don't really want to ignite any debate with others on here about stuff that's been discussed already, but if you're keeping track of our opinions on different things, I'm really hoping you won't allow vaping (I have allergies and it's been an issue for me at Horseshoe), 2/5+ will be 9-handed (and a max buyin of 800-1K at 2/5), and for good healthy food delivered to the table in a reasonable amount of time (< 1 hour). I'm hoping for good comps also, and a tie-in to Vegas, but that's like saying I'm hoping for lots of fish and flopped sets - everyone wants that stuff. Also, the $1/minute massage company definitely gets my vote! They do a very good job at the Horseshoe.

Thanks again for hanging around here and passing along whatever info you can when you can...

Looollollll. Too soon?
Well played sir

$1/minute massages for sure please

By the way, speaking of music in poker rooms, the two worst songs I've ever heard in a poker room, by far:

1. Beck - Loser
2. Celine Dion - My Heart Will Go On

Nothing gets you in the mood to gamble like some good mood music!

I'll give you that Loser goes on longer than necessary, but Celine is to be respected at all times. I think that song and Whip It would be the perfect tandem for any poker room.

I think Celine is associated with Caesars so prob won't hear her music at an MGM property


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Not sure if this has been brought up already, Johnny, but I would urge you not to adopt Maryland Live's atrocious policy of prohibiting you from bringing your whole stack (if it exceeds the max buy in) when transferring tables.

Its a common theme in last-longer-prop-betting-threads on this forum where ****ty music on repeat is mentioned as a torture method to make the challenge harder. The thread where the guy locks himself in a Vegas Motel for 90 days while on stream is the first one that comes to mind.

If it was social music that everyone can enjoy such as low volume Jazz I wouldn't mind... we are talking about music thats generally purchased by 11-13 girls, the floors, the dealers, the players with exception to some special ones who know every word, often express their annoyance...

Rapini, you're a moderator of a forum on a gambling strategy website that pays 5% as much rake as me, and probably hasn't table started once let alone actively. You make it seem like you are some whale who has no idea that table games are -EV whose going to pay 20 employees salaries in losses...

What's your point?

The point is clearly made: don't act like you're the rec the casinos are targeting.

Why would I not be? I think that's pretty much exactly what Johnny has said already in this thread. Hopefully he'll correct me if I'm wrong.

I think the 100 big blind cap gives the best long term game protection to the 2/5 player pool. If you look at the difference between live and the shoe its pretty clear what format is more popular with the fun players. The 2/5 can and does play really deep at times. Its just a matter of the game developing as the day goes on. As for the table changing issue, nothing will irate a rec player more then a stable of headphone wearing backpack carrying bum hunt table changing regs bringing there 3k stack from table to table to table. You want to switch tables fine. Bring it back down to the max buy in.

Charlestown, ML, and the Borgota at one time or another have all tried to run a 2/5 or 5/5 deep with a 200 bb cap and the game never got of the ground with the exception of the Borgota. And that game is pretty rare.

I really don't think the table change rat hole issue is that big of deal. Not to say there are not a few players who take advantage of the rule for this purpose but would likely to continue doing the same thing they would just be required to wait the 60 or 90 minute waiting period and then get back in the game.

If you want to buy in deep play 5-10. The rake is cheaper and probably no jackpot drop.

I realize that my opinion about this will be in the minority on 2+2 but as we all know most of the recs dont come here and don't have any influence.