Thanks for trying. In my opinion, I'd always be interested in prize packages to some of the Borgata's bigger tournaments. As you said though, there would need to be more enthusiasm for this than just mine.

Teetogreen72 If you like going to The Borgata events come and introduce yourself to me my name is Gary or Big Gary to most aka gjpsr, Im part of a crew that go there often,some go for every event we all get comped in some fashion most get at least 2 or 3 free nights every week of the year plus i get comped at Harrahs some also, I might be able to hook you up with some of the guys. See you at the tables Gary

You guys ever get a stud or stud 8 game going down there?

I wish the poker room was back downstairs like the old days, but this is still one of my favorite places to play in the USA.

Meadows poker room moved? Or referring to Borgata?

The Meadows poker room has always been downstairs The poster was speaking of the Borgata room when it 1st opened before it moved to current location. Please keep questions to the Meadows room on this thread as I dont speak for the borgata.

Stud is not spread much in any form, the reason is not much interest and those who wish to play it want to play micro stakes. However if you want to start interest at the podium they will always try to help get the game going .

Could you post the June tournament schedule please?

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Came to this thread to make the same request. Thanks, John.

Since we our owned by Cannery out of Vegas they do all the IT stuff for the website there, I will ask Peter to try to get them to post faster, call the room for now if you want to know about tour. info. 724 503-1700

Gary, I heard a rumor that the Meadows is switching from 1-2 NL to 1-3 NL. Have you heard anything?

The change to a 1-3 n/l is being considered it has not yet been decided. If you have a comment on this talk to Peter, he can update you as to where this is at. gjpsr

Ok guys as of 130pm today Im told by Jamison thru Peter that we will be changing to 1-3 n/l as soon as plaques come in , same by ins 50-300 for now. See you at the tables ! Gary

Mountaineer had its June schedule up in the middle of May, and we all know where Mountaineer stands in comparison to Meadows/Rivers...shouldn't really be an excuse. Couldn't you have submitted a calendar for the next month ahead of time that would be ready to go at the turn of the month?

EDIT -- And by "you," I don't mean you personally, Gary.

Mick I would like to comment on your post but I cant, Im not sure why things cant happen on time, I am on a committee Peter formed to try to improve things in fact the 1st meeting is today I will bring this up but as I stated in eariler post its all up to Vegas .We here at the Meadows try hard to make your poker experiance enjoyable and satisfing and will endevour to work harder in that end. Sincerely Gary aka gjpsr

Not a problem, Gary...I still love coming to the Meadows and will most likely be there for the third leg of the Triple Crown and maybe the Big Poker Weekend the week after. I just like to plan ahead and would prefer to know the month's schedule ahead of time. Thanks for your help!

Why the sudden move from 1/2 to 1/3 NL?

Business descion made above my pay grade, was being considered for awhile I guess, But main reason I think is to create more action, may someday change to a higher buyin at a few select tables, Looking into ways to create more action for those that want it, but keep the small stake players happy also. Feel free to comment either way as I always discuss these posts with Peter.

I assume the 1/3NL decision also came down from the canary) As a recreational player, that splits time between Rivers and Meadows, I don't understand the change. First and foremost, Meadows differentiated itself on 1/2NL. Your room has a distinctly different patronage. The average age of the cash players is significantly higher than at Rivers. In general, your 1/2NL players are less aggressive and don't gamble without regard for money. The atmosphere is much calmer. The majority of existing clientele prefers exactly this! Thus, the dedicated local crowd, and few from WV, Pittsburgh, etc..

How will the 1/3 create more action? In my opinion, if anything does change, it will be loss of players to Rivers, i.e. less people coming from up north. Why in the world increase buy ins at any low limit tables? This move will be useless as well. From what I see, very few players buy in for the full 300. Most sit down with 100 - 200. The action and crowd size will still be miles behind Rivers. There is just no money or will to play it up...

I feel that no input was gathered from us, the players. This will backfire. I, for one, will check it out, but plan on stopping trips from Pittsburgh. After all Rivers is also 1/3 and closer.

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Are you guys saying the the extra 1$ is a deal breaker, in a 8 hour playing period that would be about 3 dollars an hour times 8 thats 24 dollars. If you win some pots you also get the extra dollar lets say you win 1 pot a hour so thats 8, net is 16 dollars more. If that is a dealbreaker I will pass it on to management. The higher buy ins if they are done would be at select tables who wish it, for instance if you bought in this table at 10 at night and everybody had accumulted over 500 you could buy in for table average, just 1 or 2 tables who wish it. The problem we have is as you said we are doing well in the "calm overage market" The younger crowd want action we are trying to find a way to serve both markets. Its no secret more action more rake and bigger pots for players to play. If the majority dont like the change please voice that here or talk to Peter. WE are just trying to make all happy. Also look for a bunch of new promotions coming soon as we are changing alot of them to some exciting things. I promise to answer all comments positive or negitive I sincerely think you will like alot of the things we are trying in way of increased chances of winning comps in future. sincerely gjpsr

I'm one of those from the "calm overage market". I'm also one of those adjusting from online microstakes (10nl) to live. I don't know if it's a dealbreaker, but I'm not crazy about the idea of going from 1/2 to 1/3. I'm sure it's more psychological than financial. Instead of tables with higher vs lower buy ins, how about 1/2 and 1/3 tables? My guess would be the young guns would migrate to the 1/3 tables, and us "overage" players would stay at 1/2. You'd then have "really overage" at 2/4 limit, "overage" at 1/2nl, and youngsters at 1/3nl. It's your business and your management has to decide what they think would be most profitable. Since you're willing to deal 2/4 limit, I think having 1/2 AND 1/3 might keep the majority of your customers.

I'm also one of those adjusting from online microstakes (10nl) to live play. I'm strictly a recreational player and don't play with money I can't afford to lose. Nevertheless while l didn't think twice about losing three or four buy ins online (30-40 bucks), I do think three or four times about losing three or four hundred live. I can afford it, but it's a lot harder psychologically.

Bats I will take your ideas to Peter please understand I was quoting the other poster with calm overage market. The Meadows welcomes all no matter what the stakes thats why we spread the 2-4 they are some of are most loyal customers. Trying to please all of are customer base plus corp. management and 70 plus dealers and staff is not a easy thing to do. Peter is trying, some changes are coming some I know you will like. After trying them out let him know Thanks for the input. Sincerely Gary

The first part of this statement seems incredibly ignorant or at the very least poorly rationalized, especially coming from a poker room rep. The problem is that when a big blind is increased by 50% the avg. pot size also generally increases by 50%. While this will probably not be the case here, since buy in sizes are remaining the same, the game will definitely play a lot bigger. Instead of opening raise sizes being in the $7-$15 range, now the (correct) open sizing moves into the $11-$21 range and every other street's bets become subsequently bigger because of it.

Yes I understand that, but I was informed of the change at the same time you were. I work for the Meadows IN the poker room. I am a room rep for the meadows on 2plus2, Did I mention my employer is the Meadows. I try to be fair unbias to all points of view and as I dont make policy for management what I think does not come in to play. My job is to communicate to you players and take thoughts back. I try to be positive in all things and in the end I still work for the Meadows. If you do not like the changes talk to me on break, pm me or talk to Peter directly. As I said I will respond to all. Thanks for the input. Gary