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01-27-2014 , 09:17 PM
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Originally Posted by MDCrab
Losing comp dollars after only 30 days of not playing is very chintsy. 6 mos would be more reasonable and often encourage someone to return for their points. Patrons sometime have surgeries or other problems that prevent them from playing. I would request that this policy be revisited.
Totally agree especially with all the military and government people that play at live who may deploy or work overseas for 6 months.
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01-28-2014 , 11:54 AM
So complain through whatever customer feedback outlets the casino provides - website, phone, in person, etc. It's not Mike's policy.
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01-28-2014 , 12:14 PM
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Originally Posted by punkass
He's saying his food options are pretty much slim to zero.
Not sure how this is the casino or poker room's problem how he deals with the comps he receives.
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01-28-2014 , 12:33 PM
The purpose of comps is to attract players to the casino. If the perceived value of a players comps is zero or significantly reduced, he has less incentive to play there, which is very much the casinos problem.
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01-28-2014 , 01:20 PM
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Originally Posted by lycosid
The purpose of comps is to attract players to the casino. If the perceived value of a players comps is zero or significantly reduced, he has less incentive to play there, which is very much the casinos problem.
Agreed. Until the casino provides some better food options like other casinos do, it's going to be a valid complaint. How about a legitimate deli or salad place that you can get a good semi-healthy option at...yes, there's a subway and salad place in the mall, but comps do me no good over there. Right now the only options are basically less than par Asian dishes, hot dogs, pizza, chicken fingers, and deep fried crab cakes. There's a turkey sandwich on the menu, which I ordered once...it was two slices of turkey on wonder bread with a packet of hot dog mustard on the side...no lettuce no tomato, no pickle on the side. 2nd grade lunch boxes have better sandwiches in them.
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01-28-2014 , 03:20 PM
Link to Live Poker Classic with info on schedules, buy-ins, etc.
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01-28-2014 , 04:01 PM
does the PLO8 ever take off? the times I checked on bravo it didn't.

thanks.
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01-28-2014 , 04:38 PM
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Originally Posted by lycosid
The purpose of comps is to attract players to the casino. If the perceived value of a players comps is zero or significantly reduced, he has less incentive to play there, which is very much the casinos problem.
Where else are you going to play? Players have abondoned the other rooms in the area based on the promise that MD Live would be treating the players the way they deserved to be. Well now you see how a casino treats their players. Just good enough to attract the majority and if there's a few unhappy, they can pound sand.
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01-28-2014 , 04:41 PM
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Originally Posted by MarkMcKay
does the PLO8 ever take off? the times I checked on bravo it didn't.

thanks.
i was there 2 weekends ago and the 2/2 plo8 was running. maybe some regs can chime in and say whether or not it runs frequently. i'd guess your chances are higher on the weekends
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01-28-2014 , 04:46 PM
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Originally Posted by cf410
Where else are you going to play? Players have abondoned the other rooms in the area based on the promise that MD Live would be treating the players the way they deserved to be. Well now you see how a casino treats their players. Just good enough to attract the majority and if there's a few unhappy, they can pound sand.
...this is news?
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01-28-2014 , 05:14 PM
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Originally Posted by jonnyd
i was there 2 weekends ago and the 2/2 plo8 was running. maybe some regs can chime in and say whether or not it runs frequently. i'd guess your chances are higher on the weekends
it's hit or miss, but when it goes it's great. usually runs on avg probably 2-3 weeknights(but sometimes only for a couple hours, or putters along short handed) and every friday night, saturday night and sunday afternoon.
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01-28-2014 , 05:35 PM
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Originally Posted by cf410
Where else are you going to play? Players have abondoned the other rooms in the area based on the promise that MD Live would be treating the players the way they deserved to be. Well now you see how a casino treats their players. Just good enough to attract the majority and if there's a few unhappy, they can pound sand.
Or, I can continue to play, pay $25-27,000/year in rake, and voice my opinion. I said I was "disappointed" at losing what I expect to be $4000. Was my language too strong, or are you against player comps in general?

Last edited by The Drifter; 01-28-2014 at 05:56 PM.
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01-28-2014 , 08:27 PM
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Originally Posted by yg13
Link to Live Poker Classic with info on schedules, buy-ins, etc.
Mike, The schedule looks great. When will structure sheets be posted?
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01-28-2014 , 08:33 PM
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Originally Posted by The Drifter
No more slot play with comp $?

As a vegetarian who expects to earn $4500 comp dollars this year, that's disappointing.

I guess I'll, uh...hmm.
Can comp dollars only be used on food? How about in the gift shop?
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01-28-2014 , 08:34 PM
Will there be satellites to the main event?
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01-28-2014 , 08:36 PM
So I chopped my first Turbo last night and I think the attitude toward the chop amount is backward.

Two players had 400k-500k in chips. That's a lot but still 25-32 BB at 3k/8k/16k. They stonewalled and were given more than the rest. I think a better chop would be to give the smaller stacks less and anyone over the same. I haven't worked out the levels but, sitting with 220k, I wasn't really feeling the chop yet but would have been the only to disagree.

BTW, there were 4-6 stacks with 5BB or less.

If anyone has any insight into this I'd appreciate it.

Last edited by iamarobot; 01-28-2014 at 08:49 PM. Reason: Clarity
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01-28-2014 , 10:04 PM
I think the big stacks should be given some consideration, but that seems like an awful lot of people to be chopping. By your estimate, there were 2 big stacks, you and 4-6 people with less than 80,000 chips. I think I would have held out and gotten rid of a few more of those small stack guys.
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01-28-2014 , 10:28 PM
If you're not comfortable with the distribution of a chop, then don't chop. I know the peer pressure can suck when everyone else wants to chop, but if you feel like you're taking an EV hit by chopping, ask for a bigger payout or just decline to chop without being a dick about it. Figure out what payout you personally would be happy with, and tell the other players you'll chop if you get $X, otherwise you'd prefer to keep playing.
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01-28-2014 , 10:57 PM
It was actually a 12 way chop. Two big stacks, a few similar to mine and the rest small. Pretty much anyone's to win really with the blinds so high and I think that's why everyone wanted to take $950 instead if risking busting out and getting $180.

I'm a recreational player so I'm glad when the poker pays for itself. I just thought the thinking was backward when it was going on.
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01-28-2014 , 11:29 PM
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Originally Posted by iamarobot
It was actually a 12 way chop. Two big stacks, a few similar to mine and the rest small. Pretty much anyone's to win really with the blinds so high and I think that's why everyone wanted to take $950 instead if risking busting out and getting $180.

I'm a recreational player so I'm glad when the poker pays for itself. I just thought the thinking was backward when it was going on.
So you had 2 Bigs, 4 Mediums (including you) and 6 Smalls.

You got lumped with the Smalls.
You think you should have gotten lumped with the Bigs.
That's why you thought it was "backwards".

Next time either
1) say 'no chop' or
2) insist on being lumped with the Bigs or
3) make it 3 tiers instead of 2
4) take the chop and forgetaboutit
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01-28-2014 , 11:55 PM
...or get an ICM calculator app for your smartphone and eliminate the guesswork.
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01-29-2014 , 04:08 AM
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Originally Posted by Tyler Durden
Can comp dollars only be used on food? How about in the gift shop?
They can be used in the gift shop. Other than food you can purchase drinks from the bar/waitresses or cigarettes from Phillips. Pretty big difference from getting cash-in-hand at close to 1:1 through slot play.

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Originally Posted by CarlosChadha
Mike, The schedule looks great. When will structure sheets be posted?
https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B5hm...lWVhxbGZR/edit

Last edited by The Apex; 01-29-2014 at 04:19 AM.
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01-29-2014 , 11:41 AM
I have been playing 1/2 recreationally around once a week. I have around 20 sessions and 120 hours in (small sample size I know). I am averaging around 15BB/hr. If I continue this and build my bankroll, I am thinking about taking a shot at 2/5.

Can anyone offer some insight into any major differences in the general table dynamics and play between 1/2 and 2/5 at MD Live?

Thanks in advance
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01-29-2014 , 12:00 PM
Tonight - would it kill to make the rounds 20 minutes instead of 15- start tournament at 6:15 instead of 7:15 (with re-enter that would not inconvenience anyone- and don't even have a noon tournament- that would make one good tournament in the week- as is you have wrecked every tournament either with no chips to play with or these sucky 15 minute rounds. If you want to run a casino , a poker room, and tournaments- try doing it right for a change instead of half-assed which seems to be the order of the day over there.
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01-29-2014 , 12:21 PM
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Originally Posted by Kmslrr
Tonight - would it kill to make the rounds 20 minutes instead of 15- start tournament at 6:15 instead of 7:15 (with re-enter that would not inconvenience anyone- and don't even have a noon tournament- that would make one good tournament in the week- as is you have wrecked every tournament either with no chips to play with or these sucky 15 minute rounds. If you want to run a casino , a poker room, and tournaments- try doing it right for a change instead of half-assed which seems to be the order of the day over there.
It's been said before, but if you want tournaments you want Delaware Park. Long tournaments with excellent structures don't make business sense for MDL because demand for cash games is so high.
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