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04-01-2015 , 11:11 AM
I was there playing 3/6 limit hoping for the pink to go.

It is a 25 table room. With 1 table left open (24 tables running), they decided to call a 1/3 NL instead of the pink game. I believe they had around 10-15 names on the 1/3 list, but they also had about 13 tables of them running as well. Pink game had 11 names I believe. Not surprisingly, the 1/3 list was open seating shortly after they called the last table for 1/3.

I'm not saying that the pink game should get any sort of special treatment, but I think they could have tried to call the pink game first. The list does sometimes go stale, but a check would have been appreciated.
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04-01-2015 , 12:29 PM
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Originally Posted by punkass
I was there playing 3/6 limit hoping for the pink to go.

It is a 25 table room. With 1 table left open (24 tables running), they decided to call a 1/3 NL instead of the pink game. I believe they had around 10-15 names on the 1/3 list, but they also had about 13 tables of them running as well. Pink game had 11 names I believe. Not surprisingly, the 1/3 list was open seating shortly after they called the last table for 1/3.

I'm not saying that the pink game should get any sort of special treatment, but I think they could have tried to call the pink game first. The list does sometimes go stale, but a check would have been appreciated.
This is 100 percent accurate and what I was trying to say rapini, in my opinion your supposed to call the pink game down, always thought you wanted to spread as many different types of games as possible
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04-01-2015 , 01:28 PM
Got involved in a horrible ruling, and probably the most blatent favoritism from the floor I've ever seen.

OR raises, call, I call on button, BB 3bets. OR calls, I call. I flop a set.

BB stacks her chips up and as she is sliding them in, OR snaps a stack of 100 into the middle, and says "call". BB immediately slides her stack back. They're regs, and friendly with each other. She says she never let go, and he tells her he is going to call if she bets, so she says she checks instead. I haven't said anything yet. The dealer says "Well, I have to call the floor..."
The floor doesn't ask the dealer, but instead asks the reg (BB) what happened. She claims she never moved any chips forward and was only stacking them behind her cards. At this point, I speak up and say no, that's not what happened. The rest of the table backs me up and confirms that she did slide her whole stack at least to the line, if not across it. At this point, she admits she did, but switches her argument to the fact that she never let go of her stack.
The floor then says "Ok, well in that case, you have to make a raise, but you can make any raise you want. $3 if you like". OR laughs it off, and says "OK, I raise then."
The floor says "No, you are forced to call the $3, and that is your only option."
I speak up again. He was acting on her all in, if the action has changed, he can raise. Or, if he put $100 in on her $3, he did raise. He moved the chips before announcing.
The room manager is called over. At this point, she(BB) has figured it out, and starts telling OR that obviously want their chips in and he shouldn't be trying to raise anyway. She repeats this several times, 2 supervisors and a dealer, and nothing is said to her about discussing my hand.
I am told that a call is different, and since he announced "call" after putting his chips in, a change in action doesn't re-open his options. (Wtf?)
I bet, he shows his overpair as he folds, and says "That's too bad, I would have had to call the re raise, if all this hadn't happened.

Apparently, the rule at the Shoe is that you can slide all your chips in, on the felt, but if you haven't let go, you are only bound to a min raise. Anyone who acts on this, is bound to their actions, though.

If the floor likes you enough.
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04-01-2015 , 02:06 PM
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Originally Posted by punkass
I was there playing 3/6 limit hoping for the pink to go.

It is a 25 table room. With 1 table left open (24 tables running), they decided to call a 1/3 NL instead of the pink game. I believe they had around 10-15 names on the 1/3 list, but they also had about 13 tables of them running as well. Pink game had 11 names I believe. Not surprisingly, the 1/3 list was open seating shortly after they called the last table for 1/3.

I'm not saying that the pink game should get any sort of special treatment, but I think they could have tried to call the pink game first. The list does sometimes go stale, but a check would have been appreciated.

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Originally Posted by Timonium Shipper
This is 100 percent accurate and what I was trying to say rapini, in my opinion your supposed to call the pink game down, always thought you wanted to spread as many different types of games as possible
Thanks both of you. I understand the situation now. I also agree with you that under the above circumstances, the pink chip game should have been called.

If I were a room manager, my first priority (assuming that all tables take in roughly the same rake) would be to keep the wait lists short and moving. In this instance, the wait lists were the same, so I would have gone with the game that would broaden my potential customer base.
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04-01-2015 , 02:56 PM
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Originally Posted by ilovekns
I don't disagree with you ( although I think its a poor business practice, and this is coming from a guy who plays about 50/50 tournaments and cash).

I don't believe it is the absolute standard to be kept in the dark about it as players.

Seems like the reason cash players haven't got any promos the last 3 months is they've been saving up the reserve for a situation like this with the charm city.
I'd like to repeat this recent request about whether or not tournament guarantees are covered by using the reserve funds of the $1 jackpot drop. The nearby-down-the-road competition recently confirmed their tournament guarantees are NOT covered by their jackpot reserve.

This is an important question. Please respond.
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04-02-2015 , 12:36 PM
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Originally Posted by punkass
I'd like to repeat this recent request about whether or not tournament guarantees are covered by using the reserve funds of the $1 jackpot drop. The nearby-down-the-road competition recently confirmed their tournament guarantees are NOT covered by their jackpot reserve.

This is an important question. Please respond.

Yes was wondering if there was any questions answered overnight, looks like the answer is not yet
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04-03-2015 , 07:30 AM
I've been playing their Charm City multiday MTT and can tell you that the staff has been very busy managing the tournament room which is separate from the main poker room. Anthony has been manning the room constantly, so it is fair to say the operations of the room has been his front and center priority. The bagging and tagging, plus managing lots of paperwork that go along with that, and to post/update the chip leader board is another extra task for this special tournament. I'm playing there today for day 2, so if I see Anthony during the break, will relay that you've been looking for that answer.
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04-03-2015 , 07:35 AM
btw, the last I heard during my entry day is that the overlay is about $100k. I wasn't paying real close attention but I thought I heard a room supervisor telling a table that the overlay would come out of the poker room's operations revenue - so reasonable to assume that would be rake plus tournament fees. But again - that's what I heard when a player asked a supervisor how the overlay gets backed; let's hear from them next on specifics.
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04-03-2015 , 11:20 AM
There was a lot of discussion itt about this tournament and whether or not it would have overlay, where the funds would come from etc in late Dec. Anyhony never responded. He doesn't post here much, I'd try here:

https://mobile.twitter.com/AnthonyChstr
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04-03-2015 , 10:55 PM
VP games on the 2nd floor went from $45coin-in = 1 tier credit to $25coin-in = 1tc.

maybe they've also changed/fixed the coin-in requirement for 1 tc in e-Craps?
(I haven't had a chance to play it because it's always been full lately )
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04-03-2015 , 11:50 PM
Are those the dollar VP machines?
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04-04-2015 , 04:40 PM
Just sat at the 2/2 game. It appears I will be the fish for the evening.
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04-05-2015 , 06:32 PM
I don't know about the Shoe but I did work at another CET property and it's policy with overlay was that a certain amount that was capped would come from the promotional funds but after that the casino was on the hook for it.

I do not know the limit nor do I know if this was due to state regulations (it was obviously in another state), corporate policy or room policy.
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04-05-2015 , 07:53 PM
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Originally Posted by silverback87
Just sat at the 2/2 game. It appears I will be the fish for the evening.
tough game with many aggressive knowledgable players?

how did u do?
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04-06-2015 , 03:29 PM
Where may one find the results of the Charm City Blowout tourney?
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04-06-2015 , 04:12 PM
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Originally Posted by CatPisa
Where may one find the results of the Charm City Blowout tourney?
It's at the bottom of the page in pdf form.

https://www.caesars.com/horseshoe-baltimore/casino/poker#.VSLoAcnD_qA
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04-06-2015 , 07:00 PM
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Originally Posted by AA Suited
tough game with many aggressive knowledgable players?

how did u do?
Donked off 100 then bowed out back to 1/3 to get even. I'm definitely rusty at the game but more so I'm proly wasnt bankrolled properly. I wonder the difference when the table fills. It was mostly shorthanded play during my time. It was alot more $$ than the 2/2 I played at live a few months back. Fun though, I'm sure I'll give it more shots in the future.
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04-11-2015 , 09:35 AM
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COMPS
$1.00/hr for 1/3 NL and $3/6 LHE
$1.50/hr for 2/5 NL and mid LHE
$2.00/hr for 5/10 NL and $20/40 LHE and higher
hm.. I got double that rate playing 1/3.
Do Diamonds get a multiplier?
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04-11-2015 , 09:48 AM
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hm.. I got double that rate playing 1/3.
Do Diamonds get a multiplier?
They have either been running a promotion since they opened that no one in management actually knows. Or they are comping at a higher rate to compete with MDlive. at MD live it required 300 poker hours to get platinum. At horse they are giving 50 tier credits an hour to compete is my guess, making it take 300 hours to get diamond. Im assuming the total rewards software is set up in a way that the increase in tier credits an hour translates to an increase in reward credits also.
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04-11-2015 , 10:26 AM
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Originally Posted by The1975
They have either been running a promotion since they opened that no one in management actually knows. Or they are comping at a higher rate to compete with MDlive. at MD live it required 300 poker hours to get platinum. At horse they are giving 50 tier credits an hour to compete is my guess, making it take 300 hours to get diamond. Im assuming the total rewards software is set up in a way that the increase in tier credits an hour translates to an increase in reward credits also.
ahh.. so it has nothing to do w/me being a Diamond.

Anthony has said:
1/3 is 17tc/hr
2/5 is 25tc
5/10+ is 36tc

so during this 'undocumented' poker promo, you get 3x tc.
so I'm assuming you also get 3x the comp rate.

looking back at my previous post, I forgot I also ordered some drinks.
so it does look like I got $3/hr in comps at 1/3.

do poker players also get $10 free slotplay for earning 75tc?
(I already earned 75tc playing slots so i'm getting it anyway.)

Last edited by AA Suited; 04-11-2015 at 10:41 AM.
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04-11-2015 , 10:53 AM
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Originally Posted by AA Suited
ahh.. so it has nothing to do w/me being a Diamond.

Anthony has said:
1/3 is 17tc/hr
2/5 is 25tc
5/10+ is 36tc

so during this 'undocumented' poker promo, you get 3x tc.
so I'm assuming you also get 3x the comp rate.

looking back at my previous post, I forgot I also ordered some drinks.
so it does look like I got $3/hr in comps at 1/3.

do poker players also get $10 free slotplay for earning 75tc?
(I already earned 75tc playing slots so i'm getting it anyway.)
no they don't earn any slot play based on tC's. for being diamond you'll et free play monthly though. And yeah I'm hoping the comps stay like they have been. actually allows you to eat a free full meal for playing for like 4-5 hours.
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04-11-2015 , 12:36 PM
You do not get the "Return Reward" from poker play.

However, I actually got $25 in slot dollars in Return Rewards for 75 TCs of play on e-craps/e-baccarat.

And it seemed like I got $5 slot credit for EVERY 15 TCs I played on these machines, but only if I played at least 75 TCs in the first place. For example, if I played 200 TC, I got a $65 return reward slot credit. This is pretty remarkable since it is more than half the expected loss from that play.
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04-11-2015 , 12:40 PM
Very true. The return rewards ratio in Cincinnati is way lower.

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04-11-2015 , 01:09 PM
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Originally Posted by NickMPK
You do not get the "Return Reward" from poker play.

However, I actually got $25 in slot dollars in Return Rewards for 75 TCs of play on e-craps/e-baccarat.

And it seemed like I got $5 slot credit for EVERY 15 TCs I played on these machines, but only if I played at least 75 TCs in the first place. For example, if I played 200 TC, I got a $65 return reward slot credit. This is pretty remarkable since it is more than half the expected loss from that play.
does freeplay amount vary with how much you win or lose?

how much coin-in for 1 tc at e-Craps?
and does the machine now display the correct TC earned on the screen?

Last edited by AA Suited; 04-11-2015 at 01:16 PM.
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04-11-2015 , 06:10 PM
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Originally Posted by AA Suited
does freeplay amount vary with how much you win or lose?

how much coin-in for 1 tc at e-Craps?
and does the machine now display the correct TC earned on the screen?
I'm pretty sure freeplay is determined by the amount of coin-in at a particular game, not with how much you win or lose. But I was playing in a way that I always lost almost exactly my expectation.

I believe these machines are $45 per tier credit. Last time I checked, the actually ecraps machine was still displaying incorrectly (though I haven't played it in a while). The other machines where you can play e-table games, scattered around the casino, do seem to diaplay correctly.
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