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08-26-2010 , 09:48 PM
I'll be there every Saturday for the foreseeable future, probably 10:00 AM until I get tired Saturday night.

Is there some kind of hand signal or quote or codeword or something to identify other 2+2ers? Or should I just say at the table 'hi, who else is from 2+2?', or should I not care? I was talking to a guy at a table two weeks ago, and he was talking poker lingo, and I asked him if he's on 2+2. He looked at me with a blank stare.. so I explained this site to him, so he'd kind-of understand what I was talking about. The guy sitting between us told me about one of the posts in this thread, so at least he knew about this site.

I've been there every weekend since they've dealt poker except one. I play 1/2 NL, but I might take a shot at 2/5 NL this weekend.

I'll take pfapfap's advice and stack my chips in piles of 20 instead of 10; we'll see how that works for me. I've always done piles of 10.

Also, Lottery Larry, I liked that huuuuge post a few pages back. Very insightful.
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08-26-2010 , 10:04 PM
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Originally Posted by LtownRiver
New "supposed" rule that I found out during my 5th visit to Hollywood. Say I grab a stack of $80 in red, reach over the betting line with it and stack out $40...the floor would tell me the bet has to be $80???

To think I've been playing live in all these cardrooms for years since having a betting line, and everyone else has been doing it wrong.

I was told this rule right before my 2/5 table broke yet again. Two trips within a week and two table breaks.
I think this is how the betting line SHOULD work. Either make a verbal declaration of the amount, or put out what you moved out.

That would cut down (eliminate? not sure) all of the betting games with this move.
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08-26-2010 , 10:06 PM
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Originally Posted by Egon West
Is there some kind of hand signal or quote or codeword or something to identify other 2+2ers? Or should I just say at the table 'hi, who else is from 2+2?',
"s'up, bro" was a signal a few years back that the board tried to make popular, I don't know if that's still used... and I can't remember the counter-signal
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08-26-2010 , 11:10 PM
Played 4 hours of 1/2 tonight from ~6:30-10:30.

I got there around 6:10 and was 13th on the list for 1/2. I went to the Celebrity Cafe for a crappy chicken sandwich and was back in less than 15 minutes to find that I was now first on the list and blinking. I stood at the desk for 3-4 minutes before anyone even looked at me. I let them know I was there for my 1/2 seat and they told me that they didn't have any, but I would be next (so why was I blinking?). 5-10 minutes later I'm seated.

One of the dealers confirmed they are moving the room upstairs, but couldn't give me a date...only 'soon.'

2 or the 4 dealers I had were decent. They stayed on top of things and kept up a good hand/hour pace. The other two were really bad. The first dealer, a gray haired lady, asked me what the rule was on something within 10 minutes of me sitting down. Why she thought I would know what the house rule was on whether or not she had to give a person with a 'reserved' button, that had just gone to the atm, a 'missed blind' button is beyond me. I told her 'i'm pretty sure you should,' to which she quickly replied with 'FLOOR!'
(The floor looked at her like she was stupid and said something to the effect of 'of course.')

Overall I finished down $14. I left when the deck change came and the floor said 'it will take 3-5 minutes.' Based on what I've heard from this post it was going to take a lot longer and I didn't have the patience.

I will go back again, but I think I'll stick to home games until they expand the room. Hopefully at that point they will start running regular tournaments and can train their floor enough to handle a bigger room.
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08-26-2010 , 11:57 PM
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Originally Posted by LtownRiver
When talking about table changes this is a standard rule in most good card rooms (ie Borgata). You can not come to the table as a new player or table change with more than the max.

If you are coming from a broken table, that is totally different. You are not in control of the fact the table broke. You should be able to bring more than max.
Seems like there would be no way to protect against going south if this was the rule. The common rule in Oklahoma is the opposite, if you ask for a table change you must carry those chips over with you so that no one can go south easily. If your table breaks because it got short and is combining, then you can drop down to the table max if you are over it since you didn't have a choice to move to that new table.
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08-27-2010 , 12:02 AM
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Originally Posted by tycho_bray
Cliffs:



Seriously viks, the VERY FIRST THING to do is to contact the mods. I think there was a poker room manager or floor in one of the other 'PA casino' threads that got banned for not following procedures. Those of us in Harrisburg really want an authorized rep on here.

Good Luck!
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Thanks to you and the others who have welcomed me to the forums. I will contact the mod and get that set up. I am a long time poker enthusiast who has a passion for guest service so I will happy to do what I can to try and improve the quality of your visits to HCPN (trying not to ruffle too many feathers in the process)
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08-27-2010 , 08:23 AM
I could really use some help with something guys, I'm looking at places to live (short term lease) and was wondering if there's a generally accepted "bad part (or parts) of town" in Harrisburg to avoid. For instance, in Tulsa, you wouldn't want to live in "North Tulsa". I'll just be there for a month or two until my wife arrives and we pick out a house, but I don't want to end up in an unsafe neighborhood.
Thanks a lot!
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08-27-2010 , 08:29 AM
How far do you want to drive daily? 81 and 83 can be a real pain in the butt depending on the time of day.
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08-27-2010 , 08:47 AM
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Originally Posted by viks
I could really use some help with something guys, I'm looking at places to live (short term lease) and was wondering if there's a generally accepted "bad part (or parts) of town" in Harrisburg to avoid. For instance, in Tulsa, you wouldn't want to live in "North Tulsa". I'll just be there for a month or two until my wife arrives and we pick out a house, but I don't want to end up in an unsafe neighborhood.
Thanks a lot!
Harrisburg is used to describe a large area. Avoid anything in the actual city. They've cleaned up some areas, but they are still close enough to some 'bad parts' of town. Look for something in Lower Paxton, Colonial Park, Linglestown, West Hanover townships. I can't really think of a bad area in any of those. They are all still considered part of Harrisburg. If you want to PM me the names of places you are looking at I could probably give you a good idea of what to expect.

There is a 2br townhouse available in my devolpment if you're interested. Big place for ~800/month. Only downside is the sound barrier for 81 is in my backyard...it's not too bad though.

Last edited by SVTHORD; 08-27-2010 at 08:52 AM.
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08-27-2010 , 10:10 AM
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Originally Posted by viks
I could really use some help with something guys, I'm looking at places to live (short term lease) and was wondering if there's a generally accepted "bad part (or parts) of town" in Harrisburg to avoid. For instance, in Tulsa, you wouldn't want to live in "North Tulsa". I'll just be there for a month or two until my wife arrives and we pick out a house, but I don't want to end up in an unsafe neighborhood.
Thanks a lot!
The casino is in Grantville. You won't have to live anywhere close to Harrisburg if you don't want too.

As far as I know all of the areas North of Harrisburg are fairly safe and you should be able to get a really nice price on Housing in lots of areas. Your main question is going to be how far you want to live in the Sticks.
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08-27-2010 , 10:52 AM
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Originally Posted by viks
Seems like there would be no way to protect against going south if this was the rule. The common rule in Oklahoma is the opposite, if you ask for a table change you must carry those chips over with you so that no one can go south easily. If your table breaks because it got short and is combining, then you can drop down to the table max if you are over it since you didn't have a choice to move to that new table.
When you "request" a table change you are asking to enter a different game as a new player. It is not fair to the players at that game that could only by into the game for say $200 (as a new player) if you show up with $1k after requesting to be moved to the new table.

Btw, what you just stated as your rule surrounding table breaks....you are allowing players to go south. They do have a choice if they don't want to take their entire stack to the new table. They can cash out.
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08-27-2010 , 10:55 AM
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Originally Posted by Lottery Larry
I think this is how the betting line SHOULD work. Either make a verbal declaration of the amount, or put out what you moved out.

That would cut down (eliminate? not sure) all of the betting games with this move.
You are probably right in that this is how it should work. I've just never heard a ruling like that in any casino in AC or Vegas. You're also right in that overall it would probably cut down on issues.
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08-27-2010 , 11:02 AM
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Originally Posted by SVTHORD
Harrisburg is used to describe a large area. Avoid anything in the actual city. They've cleaned up some areas, but they are still close enough to some 'bad parts' of town. Look for something in Lower Paxton, Colonial Park, Linglestown, West Hanover townships. I can't really think of a bad area in any of those. They are all still considered part of Harrisburg. If you want to PM me the names of places you are looking at I could probably give you a good idea of what to expect.

There is a 2br townhouse available in my devolpment if you're interested. Big place for ~800/month. Only downside is the sound barrier for 81 is in my backyard...it's not too bad though.
SVTHORD's advice is spot on. The areas he mentioned are on the NE side of Harrisburg and a very short commute to HCPN. There is a wide area with Harrisburg mailing addresses that aren't in Harrisburg proper. My home in Colonial Park (part of Lower Paxton township) is an example of this.
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08-27-2010 , 11:15 AM
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Originally Posted by Lottery Larry
"s'up, bro" was a signal a few years back that the board tried to make popular, I don't know if that's still used... and I can't remember the counter-signal
"Does the Brown Trout Sleep in the Closet?"

"Aye, she does."
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08-27-2010 , 11:18 AM
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Originally Posted by LtownRiver
When you "request" a table change you are asking to enter a different game as a new player. It is not fair to the players at that game that could only by into the game for say $200 (as a new player) if you show up with $1k after requesting to be moved to the new table.

Btw, what you just stated as your rule surrounding table breaks....you are allowing players to go south. They do have a choice if they don't want to take their entire stack to the new table. They can cash out.
or just request a table change.
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08-27-2010 , 11:20 AM
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Originally Posted by viks
I could really use some help with something guys, I'm looking at places to live (short term lease) and was wondering if there's a generally accepted "bad part (or parts) of town" in Harrisburg to avoid. For instance, in Tulsa, you wouldn't want to live in "North Tulsa". I'll just be there for a month or two until my wife arrives and we pick out a house, but I don't want to end up in an unsafe neighborhood.
Thanks a lot!
Just don't move into the actual City of Harrisburg. Lots of places to the northeast that will be fine and closer to Grantville.
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08-27-2010 , 11:41 AM
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Originally Posted by LtownRiver
When you "request" a table change you are asking to enter a different game as a new player. It is not fair to the players at that game that could only by into the game for say $200 (as a new player) if you show up with $1k after requesting to be moved to the new table.

Btw, what you just stated as your rule surrounding table breaks....you are allowing players to go south. They do have a choice if they don't want to take their entire stack to the new table. They can cash out.
I say common because other casinos in the area allow it when your game breaks, but our casino does not. At our place you must always keep your chips until you move to a game with DIFFERENT stakes, or if you cash out for an hour.
I guess it's a problem either way, either you provide a player an easy way to go south, or you let him come into that table above the max buy possibly putting other players at a disadvantage.

Perhaps these two rules would work well together then:
1. Players must keep the same amount of chips with them any time they are moving tables, whether through a broken table combing or a table change request.
2. Players may buy in at a table for up to 75% of the largest stack size.

I've seen that 2nd rule at a few other Oklahoma casinos, but it's not the rule at my casino so I haven't had enough first hand view to see if it works well.

What do you guys think is the best policy on table changes (voluntary or not) and removing chips?
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08-27-2010 , 11:42 AM
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Originally Posted by post1958
Just don't move into the actual City of Harrisburg. Lots of places to the northeast that will be fine and closer to Grantville.
I've been looking at places in Colonial Park and Hummelstown. Wherever I start at will just be temporary, so it's not a huge issue. Just don't want to have to worry about my stuff not being there when I get home
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08-27-2010 , 12:45 PM
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Originally Posted by pokaaface
or just request a table change.
The fact of the matter is you are not going to stop a determined player from essentially going south. At the very least he'll get up, cash out, leave the room for however long and then return to get in a new game.

My focus was to not allow a player voluntarily entering a new game to buy in for more than the max.
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08-27-2010 , 01:47 PM
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Originally Posted by tycho_bray
My home in Colonial Park (part of Lower Paxton township) is an example of this.
I grew up in that general area. wow, small world.
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08-27-2010 , 01:49 PM
There was a player last night that was down to ~$20-$30 in chips. He asked the dealer if he was allowed to buy $200 more, giving him $220-$230 total. I was surprised that the answer was 'yes.' The dealer said something about their being someone else at the table with more chips than that so it was allowed. This was a 1/2 game with a max buy-in of $200.

Does everyone think this was the correct decision?
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08-27-2010 , 01:53 PM
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Originally Posted by Lottery Larry
I grew up in that general area. wow, small world.
That's where I live currently as well and basically where I've resided my whole life. Where did you grow up?
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08-27-2010 , 01:56 PM
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Originally Posted by SVTHORD
There was a player last night that was down to ~$20-$30 in chips. He asked the dealer if he was allowed to buy $200 more, giving him $220-$230 total. I was surprised that the answer was 'yes.' The dealer said something about their being someone else at the table with more chips than that so it was allowed. This was a 1/2 game with a max buy-in of $200.

Does everyone think this was the correct decision?
Why would you care if he bought in 20-30 over the max?

200 max BI is stupid in the first place. Keep in mind that more money on the table is more money that you can win. Some people can't seem to understand this.
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08-27-2010 , 01:58 PM
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Originally Posted by Nepa
Why would you care if he bought in 20-30 over the max?

200 max BI is stupid in the first place. Keep in mind that more money on the table is more money that you can win. Some people can't seem to understand this.
I said I was 'surprised,' not upset. I left 10-15 minutes later and didn't really care, was just curious if it was the correct decision.
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08-27-2010 , 02:03 PM
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Originally Posted by SVTHORD
I said I was 'surprised,' not upset. I left 10-15 minutes later and didn't really care, was just curious if it was the correct decision.
It was the correct decision.


but......

Keep in mind that A nit or someone with "farmer logic" could complain to the floor and make him take 20-30 off of the table.
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