Not fair at all to say they are against action. There were just not enough people to run both games. Most the people that play plo8 are the same ones on the plo list. Most do not want to play short handed, but if both games were started short handed they would not last over a hour.

When I showed up friday, they would have kept playing plo8, but me and a buddy of mine that put money on the table and drive a lot of action agreed to play if it was switch to plo, so the table agreed to switch... it was a good game that lasted til ~9am. We also got it running again Saturday when we got up.

This will occur if and when live gaming is introduced. Problem is that there will need to be quality restaurants and bars, and have a decent pit. Video black-jack, bac, and craps is a bad joke. Cherokee is a great place to play $1-$2, but in order for it to be a great casino, a lot of changes need to take place. The monopoly on gaming, the captive audience and the general unsophistication of the clientele make it easy for Harrah's to offer an inferior product and still make mega-$$$. Live gaming will offer them the opportunity to make Cherokee a first class joint, but i wouldn't bet on it.

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Especially the way Cherokee just downgraded the Diamond Lounge. Whoever made that decision is a friggin joke.

The issue is that there is no competition. The government has given the Cherokee Indians a monopoly on gambling so they have little reason to make changes that benefit players. If they allowed casinos in all of NC the competition would make things better for the player.

There will be no other casinos west of Interstate 26 in the state of North Carolina that are not under the control of the Eastern Band of the Cherokee Indians, the Tsalagiyi Detsadanilvgi. Ergo, there will be no competition. Don't sweat it.

Sunday morning my anklet comes off and I will be in Cherokee bright and early. The ankle jewelry is a little itchy. Two more months to go. Look for me and the Wagoneer. It is a dull gold color; and dirty.

The floor folks are not against action, but their decisions are made pretty much by the book and in a manner that maximizes Harrah's profits. They, for the most part, seem to know how to run a poker room efficiently. Think rake. Deep stack tables with an ante would pretty much be a joke at Cherokee. You will need some seriously bankrolled gamblers to accomplish this. Think live cards. Harrah's Cherokee is a $1-$2 Paradise--that's all that it is currently.

It doesn't look like it is going to snow so I am going to finish making my arrangements for Sunday morning. For once, I will be glad to leave the mountain.

best,

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Sounds the like beautiful beginnings of a life filled with degeneracy and decline!

Seriously... best of luck tho.

Playing for a living in cherokee would be terrible. There is nothing there besides the casino ans the people you have to deal with every day are just aweful. My room overlooked a trailer park. No Thanks... Go to Florida if you want to start a poker career. Mush better games and atmosphere.

If u had to choose... Jax or Tampa( I can't make Miami at this point)

I would have to say Tampa. The hard Rock is a gold mine and Silks has great action too. Best poker in the country right now.

A bold statement sir... but I'll be sure to put them on my "to-play" list. Do they just run Texas or can you find some good Omaha there too?

You can pretty much find whatever you want to play. I dont think its much of a bold statement at all. Ask around.. Pretty sure anyone who has played there for any amount of time will agree.

Florida is terrible for Limit if u are a limit player.

Mind sharing what the cost of living on the road like that is? Ive thought about that circuit of WV, Cherokee, Tunica, Biloxi, Tampa but am not sure what I need to have in a living fund if I run bad.

I just played this past Thursday night and Friday afternoon. Seems like it's the slow season because it felt like there were 7-8 regulars to every 2-3 tourists at each table.

I am making a run for the mountain for Saturday. Will probably be there in the afternoon. Look for the big guy with a Seatle Sounders soccer jersey and a goatee. We will see what bad beats the chief will deliver this time!

I don't live on the road and I don't make a circuit. I do go to different venues, and I go to Cherokee a lot because it is close. Living on the road is a tough way to go. I couldn't do it.

You always need six months of expenses in the rat hole. $15,000 set back will give you a big cushion, but you cannot play out of this money. You still need a poker roll. I have an emergency account and I have other income, enough to get by in lower-middle class style. And, I have my poker roll.

For day to day living expenses, food, shelter, laundry, gas--a nut of under $85-$100 a day should get you by. Comped rooms and food will help to knock this down. It all depends on how frugal you want to be. Insurance, medical, clothes, car expenses, etc.--you will have to figure this out on your own.

I don't need to win, but I cannot afford to lose. If I make a few hundred a month to supplement my income I am happy. Anything more is a windfall. You don't get rich playing $1-$2.

I am in Cherokee today. I will be trying to make a buy-in or two, and I have to cash in my February money coupons before they expire. Look me up.

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Etiquette question about playing on the PokerPro table

Is it out of line for someone not involved in a hand to point out to someone that the action is on them?

I was at a table on Friday where on the river Player 1 goes all in for $200, Player 2 (stack $205) calls, Player 3 (stack $210) goes all in. (I don't remember the actual numbers, but this is close enough.) Anyway, action is back on Player 2 to put in his last $5, but he is obviously unaware. We sit there for about 30 seconds when someone not in the hand says "it's on you" to Player 2 who then calls. After the hand, one of the regs tells the good samaritan he was out of line.

I didn't get involved in the discussion, but I think it's pretty scummy to let someone time out for their stack when their intentions are obvious. I might have been in the minority with this opinion.

i do it at a normal poker table so i'd do it on pokerpro. honestly if you don't do it i think it's more scummy.

Has PLO been running on the weekends lately?

I don't know who said he was out of line, but they are a jackass. In my experience, I would guess only 20-30% of the people would say anything. It's mostly because they are timid or afraid that someone will lose the pot and blame them. I see this a lot with older people, and I always make sure they know if I see it.


It's been running strong every Friday and Saturday the last few weeks.
Just have to get a few key people stuck

how are the saturday tourneys there?

Not bad, were about 55-60 in the 100+20 buyin last weekend. Started with 50 and they let people buyin as people busted. Not sure how it normally is, 10am is an early wake-up call.

Do they ever run any high/mid limit holdem. 15/30 20/40 30/60?

The only limit holdem I've ever seen is 3/6. With only 10 tables its hard for them to spread a lot of games. Once the poker room moves there will be a better chance for higher limits.

Any update on a more accurate estimate of when the poker room moves upstairs? Still May-June-ish?