Well I can tell you that one rule from personal experience that I was told was different than rules elsewhere, not sure how accurate that info was.

bet $400 on one hand and got AA in bj. Split them obviousely and received AA on the split as well. So my two hands were AA, and AA. They wouldnt let me split again and I lost both hands against the dealers 5 who ran to a 20.

I was told by pit boss and other dealers that you are allowed to resplit those hands elsewhere. Curious if that is true or not.

Yes

No

Re-splitting AA I would guess is allowed about 25% of the time. I have played a lot of BJ in a lot of different casinos and that would be my guess. The places that allow it usually have something else to offset it like hitting soft 17. I know the last time I went to Caesars, I asked them about their BJ rules and they had 3 different sets of rules for blackjack and I'm pretty sure one of them allowed splitting AA.

Hmm I was thinking, could someone play 40+ hours/week and live free on the week days? Then you'd just have to find another hotel for the weekends.

Seems like a legit way to start off your poker career.

-No rent
-No water/elect bills
-Free cleaning
-Free breakfast
-More time to work at your poker game

If this is possible it would be a dream for me since I don't wish to actually live in this city (or where I am right now for that matter), I plan on moving to Tampa or Vegas.

There are quite a few people that do this (I did this for most of the Fall/early winter). This is also one of the reasons why games are pretty tough during the week, but good on weekends.

Here are the small problems you will have with your plan:
-No free breakfast
-No free internet in the hotel
-You can technically only get 3 rooms comped per week (sometimes you can get a few extra days during the week, but you can't count on it)
-Friday and Saturday nights will cost you a total of $100 per week, and obv it will cost more if you only get 3 nights per week comped and have to pay $75 total for the other 2 nights.
-You get comped a small amount for food, and once you're diamond, you get a free meal in the Diamond lounge each day, but other than that, you will most likely be eating expensive casino food, or fast food for every meal.

However, you can either find a hotel to rent by the week for $125-150, which might get you free internet, plus a fridge that you can put groceries in, or you can find people to split rooms with.

No free breakfast OR internet? Wow that is unusual to me not to have at least free wifi.. Now n days thats standard..

I guess I can see why this place doesn't get so many good reviews when you google then.

Few casino and hotels have free internet. They don't want you to stay in your room and do things, they want you to gamble.

No free breakfast is pretty standard in casino hotels as well.

They have a few restaurants in the casino/hotel, so I'm sure they want you spending money at those places as well. Plus not many gamblers care about breakfast. They'd rather be as close to the casino as possible.

Internet is ~$13 per 24 hrs, just fyi. You can always go somewhere else and use their wi-fi for free though...

Oh well 90% of hotels I go to have internet, including the HardRocks in Florida. But those are the only live casinos I've been to me being 21 now, so I guess I assumed too much.

Google FreeVP2. It's a video poker site and list the best games/full pay at different casino's. Cherokee has $5 NSUD between poker and high limit area 1 row off the wall in a few GameKing machines. 99.73% Also 9/6 JOB at $5 same area. Those I've verified. Also have two BP machines $25 that pay 99.66%, 99.17% those I haven't seen. You really have to pay attention to the pay tables at cherokee, they seem almost random at times, with higher denominations actually paying worse than lower ones. Bottom line is there is little to no playable VP at Harrahs. Shamrock 7's is one of the worst games in the casino.

However the BJ rules are fair.

6 decks.
S17
DAS
Double any 2
Resplit to 4 hands
No resplit AA, No hit split AA
No surrender

Optimal results: 0.51417%
Realistic results: 0.53727%

It seems the min. has been raised to $25(at least on weekend) and it's still $15 on the High Tie BJ with worse rules.

If they follow standard Baccarat rules, never played at Cherokee, the house edge is 1.06% on the banker bet, 1.24% on the player bet, and 14.36% on the tie with 8 deck.

There are some condos close to the casino that rent for $650-$750 per month. You could split those with a roommate and be under $150/week. I know a few people who do that.

If I was going to do that I would likely go to FL and play. The game selection is much better. Play 2/5 and print money. The rooms in Jax are super fishy and the limit at 2/5 just moved up to 1K max and 5/10 3k max. Also an uncapped 5/10 runs on weekends. Orange Park is a 43 table room, St johns a little smaller, and a third room is opening.

Dont forget that 11am checkouts are no fun anyhow. Especially after a hangover. p.s. diamond lounge is only feeding enough for people under 70lbs, and large dogs and cats which can be located on the third floor of the cherokee zoo hotel.

There are a lot of survivors making a living playing at Cherokee. The same is true in Tunica. Harrah's gives away a lot of rooms there cheaply as well. They have so many. The poker sub-culture does not seem as clubby in Tunica as it does in Cherokee. I split my time between the two. I like the anonymity of Mississippi but hate the live cards; I love the electronic poker.

Casino hotel rooms are Spartan so that you don't spend too much time in them. Harrah's trys to maximize profit on everything in Cherokee. They are masters of the Squeeze Play.

Jax poker is super fishy. $1-$2 is an awful game but $2-$5 is a money maker. Be careful--Jax is not a nice place. It is not Tunica or Biloxi. Not as bad as AC. The ocean and beaches are close but I prefer to spend my free time south of Jacksonville. It is just so close. I try to work Jax in every 3 months. Daytona too, if I can get there.

Speaking of Florida, it is blowing a little snow here today and will be cold as a mo-fo tonight, 9º. Unfortunate it is that I am trapped for ten days. Ankle bracelet, don't you know. 3rd DWI. 10 days a month for 6 months. MONTH 4.

Free internet wi-fi at McDonald's in Cherokee.

Casino food sux. Diamond Lounge--whadda joke. Free food? Buffet leftovers from yesterday. Desert? Skittles. No kidding!

For breakfast, go to Peter's Pancakes on US441 North like going into the park. Get there before 0800 for the early bird special. Good food. I eat there every day I am in Cherokee.

Does anyone know what the tourney schedule is right now and what the buy ins are?

I thought you spent your non-Cherokee time up the mountain in some sort of Bee Hive? You got DWI while driving the "wagon"?

Would those of you who also play Florida games consider it a mini-boom (circa 2004ish Vegas) atmosphere in terms of juiciness?

Think of Bee Hive as a Shangri-la, a mountaintop earthly Eden ensconced in a remote area of rural east Tennessee. Hard to get to, harder to find, Bee Hive is a remnant of a small beekeeping community that existed in the 1910s. The bees and clover are gone now, but the name lingers on. The 37 acres are surrounded by national forest and the USFS maintains my road, although not to a standard a non-4-wheel drive vehicle would find acceptable.

I got a DWI in Knoxville in Lindbergh Forest just after leaving a game there, back in the Knox-Vegas glory days. I was .09. Newport police got me there at .10 and TSP (TSP is why i got the anklet) nailed me near Parrottsville on US321 at .12. I was drunk that time, and my attitude was bad. Seems I always get pulled over while trying to get home from a game. The Wagoneer was impounded each time.

I spend a lot of time at Cherokee as it is only about 60 miles from Paradise. My non-Cherokee time is spent on the mountain. I also travel to Tunica and Biloxi regularly, with occasional forays into Florida, West Virginia, and Delaware. I am preparing to go to Florida now as the real winter has set in. As for real down time, I prefer Oregon and Montana. I try to not gamble when out west, but there is a casino in Lincoln City, Oregon where i have never lost. I have only been there three times.

I don't know about the Vegas mini-boom of '04, but Florida is wide open; juicy, fishy, donkish and delicious. $1-$2, with the $40 minimum is not much fun; but $2-$5 is real poker, not as amateurish as the $1-$2 game, but it has a dearth of real pros.

red

Diamond lounge is no longer a buffet, just fyi. As mentioned above, they serve small portions of food. And supposedly they're going to be back open every day of the week.

Peter's is good.

I am fairly familiar with the Diamond Lounge. Having a server bring you yesterday's food does not make it any better. I do believe that I liked it more as the small buffet it was. It is a great perk for the regular players that have achieved Diamond status and it does cut their nut--I am all for that, but I do not enjoy eating second rate food.

Harrah's new buffet is a big improvement over the Fresh Market, but it is way overpriced (where you gonna spend them RCs anyway). The food quality is OK, but flank steak is the top of the line meat, and nothing ever changes. Eat there twice and you're done.

If you don't care about taste, blandness, variety, price, or presentation, Harrah's Cherokee is probably an acceptable place to eat. I do understand that most of the clientele is unsophisticated, and that Harrah's has no competition--that is part of the problem.

If live gaming ever arrives, the food quality is going to have to improve, and one Ruth's Chris is not going to solve this problem. Ruth's Chris will be out of most folk's price range. It is just a shame that a casino as profitable as Cherokee would serve such unpalatable food.

The Horseshoe in Tunica, when operated by Jack Binion, had a wonderful buffet. Harrah's, the current owners, have turned it into a pit of mediocrity. The Paula Dean's at the Harrah's in Tunica is just as poor as the one in Cherokee. I do not think that Harrah's cares or pays any attention to food service. I have made numerous complaints but have never seen any improvements.

I have not eaten at the Noodle Bar. I have viewed the menu and it looks pricey. There was not much on the menu that I might be interested in. Can anyone review it?

red

So if I go play on A weekday How many hours of play would it take to get a room THAT night? Is this possible

Hours aren't credited for poker until the next day, so it's not possible.

They have items not on the menu that can be ordered. I have eaten there twice, first time was a decent and standard shrimp fried rice, although too pricey. The other was a pepper steak, horrible and pricey. Unfortunately it's the only place to get freshly made food at 2am inside the casino.

It still beats the Diamond Lounge in Tunica. Cheese cubes and strips of ham. Are u kidding me?

I will be there feb. the 13th 14th and 15th. Is anyone going to be around then? Also Im more of a tournament player. What is the tourney schedule like and how is the structure.

http://www.harrahscherokee.com/Event...-2012&x=57&y=3

No Saturday Tournament anymore?

Just wondering why the poker room staff seems to be so against action. Eg. they would not start a plo game last weekend because the floor said it would break the plo 8 game.

I told the floor the plo 8 was prolly going to break but they did not care. I quit the game and played less than two rounds of holdem before the plo 8 broke and it switched to plo.

The floor people there are rote rules followers, simply trying to protect the nits. If Harrah's would simply make a few changes they could bring a ton of action and new players to their room.

In addition to the standard buyins of the 1-2 2-5 5-10 etc. they should have deep stack tables with an ante. The internet tried this and it was a huge success. It would not run off the regulars, because they could play the smaller capped games. However, once the word got out that Harrah's had real poker with deeper buyins and action players showing up, you would see a flood of poker money up there like the Dahlonega Gold Rush. Also, everyone knows that action poker players spend alot of money in restaraunts and bars, tip very well, and are big pit suckers.

I hope someone from Harrah's will read this and at least consider making some changes up there to bring in new business.

Supernit