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12-20-2017 , 03:28 PM
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Originally Posted by jelloman
Pretty sure Wynn and all other Mass casinos will be 100 % non-smoking. I wish all casinos would follow suit.
Agreed. And I think you're accurate regarding the smoking ban. It was something which was brought up back in 2010 when the whole MA casino stuff got rolling.

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12-27-2017 , 04:08 PM
Oh boy I was there the first day the poker room started "enforcing" the cell phone on the rail rule. I will tell ya, the players were not happy at all. I saw two players get pretty heated when talking to the floor about the rule, and could over hear half a dozen more conversations about it throughout couple days.
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12-28-2017 , 01:31 PM
Hi, I'm headed to FW next week to play plo & nlhe. I know they have a 2/5 plo game but does it run every day? do they have 5/10 plo? is it true that I can't put my phone in the cup holder or on the rail? wtf! Last time I was at fw was mebbe 4 months ago and I don't remember that phone nonsense!

Thanks for your help.
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12-28-2017 , 01:53 PM
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Originally Posted by The Nature Boy
Oh boy I was there the first day the poker room started "enforcing" the cell phone on the rail rule. I will tell ya, the players were not happy at all. I saw two players get pretty heated when talking to the floor about the rule, and could over hear half a dozen more conversations about it throughout couple days.
Problem is FW doesn't have drink tables so where do you put your phone and other stuff? I sure hope the room at MGM is Springfield is good so I never have to go to this room again.
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12-28-2017 , 02:20 PM
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Originally Posted by Very Josie
Hi, I'm headed to FW next week to play plo & nlhe. I know they have a 2/5 plo game but does it run every day? do they have 5/10 plo? is it true that I can't put my phone in the cup holder or on the rail? wtf! Last time I was at fw was mebbe 4 months ago and I don't remember that phone nonsense!

Thanks for your help.
Phone can go wherever now just not on felt and can't be on it while dealt cards.

I can't speak for PLO on weekdays as I'm there only Saturdays now, but 2/5 PLO does run weekends and I did see a 5/10 PLO game have interest. Guys trying to get it started. Idk if it did start.

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12-29-2017 , 02:31 PM
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Originally Posted by Playlive
Problem is FW doesn't have drink tables so where do you put your phone and other stuff? I sure hope the room at MGM is Springfield is good so I never have to go to this room again.
In your pocket? LOL

Whats the beef with Foxwoods in the last several years? I've been going very often lately and I havent even noticed my points increasing. Back in the day I played far less there and got rewarded quite good. Comps such as free rooms weekly, food tickets, show offers etc.

So the bad beat is coming back so thats good. Why was it scrapped to begin with?

Has Mohegan and Twin Rivers really stepped up their games?

As far as the cell phone on the rail, I dont quite get it as a player. I dont care if someone is heavily invested in their phone because they are probably not playing the best they could. Someone last week was watching Stranger Things at the table.
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12-29-2017 , 02:53 PM
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Originally Posted by Very Josie
Hi, I'm headed to FW next week to play plo & nlhe. I know they have a 2/5 plo game but does it run every day? do they have 5/10 plo? is it true that I can't put my phone in the cup holder or on the rail?....
2/5 PLO runs every day now, usually starts short around 11-12, then fills up rapidly. Buyin = $200-1000.
Generally by late afternoon there will be 2 tables going, sometimes 3 tables on weekends. 5/10 PLO is sporadic, runs most weekends and occasionally during the week.
Phones now ok on rail, ok to use when not in a hand, just don't use while in a hand (I like this rule, actually).
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12-29-2017 , 02:59 PM
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Originally Posted by The Nature Boy
In your pocket? LOL

Whats the beef with Foxwoods in the last several years? I've been going very often lately and I havent even noticed my points increasing. Back in the day I played far less there and got rewarded quite good. Comps such as free rooms weekly, food tickets, show offers etc.

So the bad beat is coming back so thats good. Why was it scrapped to begin with? ....
They're definitely getting stingier with comps and points; but it takes a few months for the system to recognize a change in your play pattern.
BBJ was scrapped because the High Hand promos were much more effective at drawing traffic into the room. BBJ only did so rarely when jackpot got very high (>$300-400K).
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12-29-2017 , 05:53 PM
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Originally Posted by MJ88
They're definitely getting stingier with comps and points; but it takes a few months for the system to recognize a change in your play pattern.
BBJ was scrapped because the High Hand promos were much more effective at drawing traffic into the room. BBJ only did so rarely when jackpot got very high (>$300-400K).
The High Hand promos days looked more effective and brought in the players. Eventually I thought they’d expand the # of days it ran and eliminate the BBJ. Guess not. Maybe my assumption was wrong or players rallied for it in the questionnaire or Foxwoods is addicted to the BBJ. In either case it doesn’t get as high as it once did with the HH promos running 3 days a week.
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12-29-2017 , 11:34 PM
Last night when my car was parked in the 3rd floor of the Pequot garage someone bumped into my right rear bumper causing minor damage, but not leaving any information. Is there any chance that if I call Foxwoods they might have caught in on camera and could get me a car description and plate number?
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12-30-2017 , 11:46 AM
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Originally Posted by The Nature Boy
In your pocket? LOL

Whats the beef with Foxwoods in the last several years? I've been going very often lately and I havent even noticed my points increasing. Back in the day I played far less there and got rewarded quite good. Comps such as free rooms weekly, food tickets, show offers etc.
Foxwoods comps are very good compared to rest of country but now far behind Mohegan who has always had ridiculous benefits for pros/regs. The increased rake isn't competitive with Mohegan now so that's one. Another is that the "Black Card", which paid reg 1/2 players $4 an hour, wasn't ever going to be sustainable but when you give it to the players then take it away it is a huge negative rather than simply not giving it to players to begin with. The BC program never made sense from a business point of view. The same goes with the free $150 or $75 choice benefit that was taken away. Never made fiscal sense but when you give it to players then take it away that is akin to overpromising and under delivering in the business world. It's very bad business. Whoever made these decisions at Foxwoods was misguided at best or incompetent at their position at worst.

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So the bad beat is coming back so thats good. Why was it scrapped to begin with?
The HH draws recreational players and players from neighboring poker rooms as the number of games running indicate. The BBJ has little effect in drawing patrons aggressively. Rooms all around the country have scrapped the BBJ for the HH to draw players, that is the industry trend. Foxwoods was among the last to adapt and now they are returning to the dinosaur ages, maybe even at the expense of added rake.

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Has Mohegan and Twin Rivers really stepped up their games?
LOL. Uh, no. In fairness to Mohegan they have always had imo the best comp program in the entire country for pro/reg players. The problem with this is the room becomes nit infested with players sitting there playing for points rather than playing for action. Twin's comps are brutal for players, which is common in most places, but it detracts the comp whores from sitting there sleeping while generating action from those there to gamble.

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As far as the cell phone on the rail, I dont quite get it as a player. I dont care if someone is heavily invested in their phone because they are probably not playing the best they could. Someone last week was watching Stranger Things at the table.
Again this is industry standard as it is common sense 2017 functionality. I don't like those watching movies on ipads or large devices as they aren't likely to give action but these players are so braindead to not realize that everyone knows that when they paused that movie once every 25 minutes they are playing one of like 3 hands lol.
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12-30-2017 , 12:03 PM
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Originally Posted by Mat the Gambler
Last night when my car was parked in the 3rd floor of the Pequot garage someone bumped into my right rear bumper causing minor damage, but not leaving any information. Is there any chance that if I call Foxwoods they might have caught in on camera and could get me a car description and plate number?
You should obviously call FW and check. It doesn't hurt to ask. In a related story, I once witnesses a hit and run in the parking garage. And when I say run, I mean the idiot hit the guy, then drove about 200 ft. and parked his car. I reported the perp's license plate to FW security, though I don't know what ever became of the incident.
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12-30-2017 , 12:09 PM
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Originally Posted by RhodyGuy

Again this is industry standard as it is common sense 2017 functionality. I don't like those watching movies on ipads or large devices as they aren't likely to give action but these players are so braindead to not realize that everyone knows that when they paused that movie once every 25 minutes they are playing one of like 3 hands lol.
I don't personally mind if people aren't paying attention at the table in most situations, unless they're really slowing things down. But that's usually easy to remedy by giving warnings/penalties. The one situation that really annoys me though is, if you raise (and especially if you three bet) and then somebody, particularly in the blinds, goes to complete a limp or the original raise, unaware that the action has increased. And then, rather than folding as they would 90% of the time, they complete the action. In for a penny, in for a pound, I guess. Anyhow, of course having somebody make a bad call is not the worst thing in the world. But often times, it opens the floodgates for other calls and in the end, it just fundamentally changes the nature of the hand, all because they weren't paying attention.
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12-30-2017 , 08:13 PM
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Originally Posted by akashenk
I don't personally mind if people aren't paying attention at the table in most situations, unless they're really slowing things down. But that's usually easy to remedy by giving warnings/penalties. The one situation that really annoys me though is, if you raise (and especially if you three bet) and then somebody, particularly in the blinds, goes to complete a limp or the original raise, unaware that the action has increased. And then, rather than folding as they would 90% of the time, they complete the action. In for a penny, in for a pound, I guess. Anyhow, of course having somebody make a bad call is not the worst thing in the world. But often times, it opens the floodgates for other calls and in the end, it just fundamentally changes the nature of the hand, all because they weren't paying attention.
Wait... you're complaining about other people (a) making terrible calls while also (b) broadcasting to you that they made an ultra light call? Do you also complain about players not respecting your raises? They're torching many blinds of EV which goes directly to you.

Do people who post rather than wait for the BB and people who straddle also bother you? These things also change the fundamental nature of the hand while giving free EV to the rest of the table.
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12-31-2017 , 11:34 AM
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Originally Posted by akashenk
I don't personally mind if people aren't paying attention at the table in most situations, unless they're really slowing things down. But that's usually easy to remedy by giving warnings/penalties. The one situation that really annoys me though is, if you raise (and especially if you three bet) and then somebody, particularly in the blinds, goes to complete a limp or the original raise, unaware that the action has increased. And then, rather than folding as they would 90% of the time, they complete the action. In for a penny, in for a pound, I guess. Anyhow, of course having somebody make a bad call is not the worst thing in the world. But often times, it opens the floodgates for other calls and in the end, it just fundamentally changes the nature of the hand, all because they weren't paying attention.
Everyone has their own personal quirks but all else being equal I'm more than willing to play against distracted players calling my 3bets light AND oop.
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12-31-2017 , 02:25 PM
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Originally Posted by akashenk
if you raise (and especially if you three bet) and then somebody, particularly in the blinds, goes to complete a limp or the original raise, unaware that the action has increased. And then, rather than folding ...
I thought this was going in a different direction up to this point. I see this a lot and really wish all dealers would make these doofs not paying attention pay...

...people not paying attention who call a limp or a raise and not realizing there is a 3b or a shove, and then when the dealer says it is 25 not 6, the guy takes back the 4 dollars he put in for the call and mucks.
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12-31-2017 , 02:47 PM
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Originally Posted by 27offsuit
I thought this was going in a different direction up to this point. I see this a lot and really wish all dealers would make these doofs not paying attention pay...

...people not paying attention who call a limp or a raise and not realizing there is a 3b or a shove, and then when the dealer says it is 25 not 6, the guy takes back the 4 dollars he put in for the call and mucks.
Where I live, the 6 bucks stays in the pot. Guy can call the 25 or forfeit the 6 and stays in the pot. Action didn't change to him, it's been $25 to call all along he's the one not paying attention. And it's fully enforced out here
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12-31-2017 , 10:45 PM
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Originally Posted by Crowe Capital
Wait... you're complaining about other people (a) making terrible calls while also (b) broadcasting to you that they made an ultra light call? Do you also complain about players not respecting your raises? They're torching many blinds of EV which goes directly to you.

Do people who post rather than wait for the BB and people who straddle also bother you? These things also change the fundamental nature of the hand while giving free EV to the rest of the table.
When one person makes a -EV call because they're not paying attention its fine, of course. However, when this causes others to call behind for "pot odds", suddenly your own EV plummets.

So, if this happens because of straight up bad play, its one thing. But when it happens because someone simply wasn't paying attention, it is more annoying.
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01-01-2018 , 03:02 PM
How does your EV plummet? Your EV is going UP if people are calling your raise light. What you are describing is a great situation.
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01-01-2018 , 04:19 PM
Pardon my ignorance on this but, is the poker room still affiliated with the World Poker Tour or called the World Poker Room? When and why did this happen?

Also when/why did the MGM drop out of Foxwoods?
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01-01-2018 , 07:44 PM
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Originally Posted by Army Eye
How does your EV plummet? Your EV is going UP if people are calling your raise light. What you are describing is a great situation.
you go from a favorite to win a small pot to a underdog (against the field) to win a large pot.

Even with pocket aces, 5 ways you are an underdog against the field.

Maybe EV neutral, but definitely increases variance.
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01-01-2018 , 07:49 PM
If you go from having an 80% chance to win X to having a 20% chance of winning 5X, your EV went up.
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01-01-2018 , 07:50 PM
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Originally Posted by The Nature Boy
Also when/why did the MGM drop out of Foxwoods?
Base on this link the partnership end was announced in 2013 and effective 1st half of 2014...
https://indiancountrymedianetwork.co...h-mgm-resorts/
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01-01-2018 , 07:56 PM
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Originally Posted by Lattimer
If you go from having an 80% chance to win X to having a 20% chance of winning 5X, your EV went up.
Not to mention beyond raw equity you also have payoff asymmetries working in your favor having the range which is likely to be the dominator rather than the dominated.
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01-01-2018 , 08:08 PM
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Originally Posted by Lattimer
If you go from having an 80% chance to win X to having a 20% chance of winning 5X, your EV went up.
But if you are only 15% in the 5X pot, your EV went down.
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