Well, i just think stud should always stay FL. It doesnt seem absurd to you? It's unnecessary. Stud is one of the oldest forms of poker, and modernizing it to fit the needs of action junkies seems disrespectful and kind of juvenile. It probably all got broughten about by some moron getting smacked in the face with a downswing (or he just isnt good) and complaining that he's losing cause he cant bet more to protect his hand. It's one small step towards ruining a great game, and/or the different variations of poker that could get tampered with later - all because they allowed this to get spread. Alter pineapple, badugi, etc. all you want....but stud? Nah, leave stud alone. It's ancient for god's sakes. I heard about them spreading it in NL form and almost puked.

More or less, i feel like we're allowing the recreational loser/whiner an opportunity to take away a perfectly good game from a player who takes it seriously and devotes tons of time into getting better. What makes stud so difficult is because it's FL, and because its so difficult is what makes it so great and appealing. The "fish" are going to play NL stud if it spreads, while the better players will stay at FL stud. So, we're taking money out of the pockets of hard-working regulars.

a poker game is a poker game...it can be played with 1 card or 10 cards and can be limit, pot limit, or no limit...you can play traditional games or new ones...you can play heads up or ten handed...the point im trying to make is that there's many different types of poker and the game/games are constantly evolving...just because you may not want to play a game doesnt give you the right to bash it...thats why there's 1-2nl hold 'em-for the simpletons...i used to be guilty of playing only hold 'em too, but after years and years of just looking down at 2 cards you get bored....i havent played hold 'em in almost a year outside of tournaments and have been having a blast...this NL stud game, while it probably won't take off and become a staple, sounds like a fun time messing around with a new game...you don't need to be so negative towards it, especially if you are not going to even be playing it...don't you remember when the poker room was upstairs, there was no bravo system, you put your name down on a dry erase board, and oh yea, there was NO NL hold 'em

It's was stud in the front section, Omaha, 2/4 and 4/8 Holdem behind the dry erase board where u signed up. 20/40 Holdem all along the windows on the right side. High stud games against the back windows. Good old days!

As someone who used to play stud only, I welcome this game. There are no fish left in the stud game. It is the same people day in and day out. If it can get some younger people to play and experience the game maybe they will like the concept of the game and go try 10-20 or 20-40. I can't see how any hands ever make it to showdown in that game, but for a grinder it wouldn't be too bad.

Im actually surprised at the general concensus. I thought there would be many more opinions like mine. I dont see why people who want this game dont just play PLO. Same concept, except showdowns will happen a respectable amount of the time and at least one of the streets will consist of seeing 3 cards. 1 card, no limit betting round, 1 card, no limit betting round, 1 card, no limit betting round, etc. etc. ...... that just seems so ridiculous to me. 7th street is going to be practically impossible to call a shove unless you have a superior hand that's stronger than whatever your opponent/s were drawing to. Think about that. There's a reason stud has never been anything but FL.....it just doesnt work as a NL game.

There's a reason 7 stud has remained unchanged. It has too many betting rounds to work effectively as a NL game. Unless you start with at least a pair or rolled up, it won't be worth playing the hand.

I wouldn't mind playing stud, but I've never gotten good vibes from that crowd. It seems like they don't want any of the younger holdem players coming over to ruin their game.

I think taking your shoes off at the poker table is a little odd - I get wanting to be comfortable, but its getting near that line of civilization breaking down. Letting your feet breath = letting others smell your foot odor.

A guy at my table the other night whipped out an electric razor and shaved his face right at the table. He had no noticeable stubble and this was at 2am, which only made it more strange. A few of us at the table started to laugh at this, and then he joined in on the laugh, and all in all, he successfully gave off the demeanor of a psychopath.

There is a row of outlets underneath the table (as in, attached on the underside of the table) easily accessible by the 6 seat. The floors frown upon you plugging in there, but...

I don't play/know much about stud/NLstud. But as a hard-working regular, why should anyone care about the bolded part? The whole premise of being a "hard-working" regular is that you would adapt to whatever games the fish want to play. Forcing the fish to play a game they would rather not will be more harmful to everyone in the long run.

The concept of being good at poker has some element of game-selection to it.

Clint Eastwood said it best: Deserves got nothin' to do with it.

^ I know what you're saying. You're right...half the battle is adapting and game selection. But it takes years and tens of thousands of hands (maybe millions if we're talking online) to master such a complex game. Just cause you're a winner in FL stud doesnt mean you're going to be able to sit in at a NL stud game and beat it for the same hourly. Completely diff game and world. It'd be like starting all over almost. Strategy would be almost completely different.

EDIT: Just wanted to say something else before the subject dies. The swings in a NL stud game would be astronomical. Probably higher than that of PLO. Having 3 down cards by 7th street and being able to bet anything you want would make it almost impossible to put a legit read on anyone or anything. It'd be like practically guessing. There's just too much hidden information in the game for it to hold any integrity. 5-way pot, facing a 2/3 pot-sized bet on 5th street after 2 callers and a fold....you have a huge pair, a gutshot, and a backdoor flush draw....all of which could have ridiculous reverse implied odds. Not to mention keeping track of dead-cards, up-cards, and player tendencies. What the hell would you do?!?! What's the correct play??? That's an extreme example (and it probably a fold anyways lol), but im just making a point. You're head will want to explode. If they spread it, go ahead and try it out. Guarantee you'll be back to FL within 3 sessions....if that. (Unless you go on some unrealistic heater and crush somehow lol)

NL stud8 is a real game played in private games, pretty big too

so what does that have to do with anything. its a different form of poker. its like saying HU is not poker because you have to play many more hands compared to FR. its just a ridiculous statement. you will see larger short term swings in PLO compared to hold em but does that mean one or the other isnt real poker? they are just different forms of a game using cards. you dont like it, dont play it

So what games have you mastered in your 10,000 hands?? You sound delusional. Sounds like you don't think you can master NL 7stud in 10,000 hands lolz. Try war, should be able to master that in a 10k sample...

Also hidden information?? Have you heard of NL single 2-7, NL 5 draw?? Is there too much hidden info there to hold integrity?? Stop typing you sound stupid.

Poker is gambling & Poker is fun. You sound like you know how to take both aspects away.

sad truth is stud is a dying game - maybe some NL stud with breath a some life into it

should at least be PL stud imo

Exactly! Anything to add to the current list of 24 people in the casino that even know the rules of stud.

Burger King is 1.5 points to the dollar

how safe are the parking garages at foxwoods from theft/vandalism? $100k+ cars. or just valet?

Dude. Just valet it. I've never had an issue with my '06 Mustang, but why take the chance with a car that expensive.

Rainmaker Valet closest to poker. 10 minute wait on busy nights is not that bad upon retrieval. I'd guess a 10 or 20 spot gets u parked upfront. Never tried that trik, i'm a 3.00 in/out guy.

i can never understand why anyone WOULDNT valet their car when it's free outside of tipping the valet in general at any establishment. It's like it costs me 2-3 dollars to tip a valet and be lazy and just dump my car right in front of the entrance etc-seems like a complete non-decision to me

Sometimes I forget something in the car, want to go charge my phone, etc. Only reason I don't.

Tip $10 and short park

http://www.foxwoods.com/MegaStack.aspx

Click on each individual tournament.

Exactly and valet is no picnic had a douche scratch my lexus ls and said nothing
I park my own car with one side in a spot where no one else can park
Amen to being able to access your car for airplane. Shooters phone charger coat mouthwash gum etc etc or just to rest your head

What do you mean by "airplane" here?

I have played PL $1/2 Mississippi stud/8 and it is a bunch of fun and the pots can grow into very respectable pots. I don't think I would like NL stud which I have never played. Could be wrong.