I agree, and also think that makes it about average for the lowest buy in NL games at big casinos, in my experience.

Well more crap news. Starting Monday, shuttles from Wellington will be running every 30 minutes

The 2-5 NL is full of nits so the 1-3 NL has lots of 2-5 NL players trying to escape their fellow nits and looking for easier pickings which translates into it being tougher than a normal 1-3 NL, IMO.

Hmu if you want a fun 1/3 next time you're here. Jpsychelady and I can turn any table into a circus. 2/5 maybe if I'm in the mood, but there's currently no reason to play 2/5 @ encore.

I would rather play 5-10 NL than 2-5 NL @EB only because the action is greater/looser. The first 2-5 NL I sat at had 3 guys reading hard cover books (never a good sign for action), the rest were on their phones, texting, reading, etc.

The 20-40 half kill HE game was off the charts when it did run. Cost 120 and more to see a flop every hand, I kid you not. They are tough and extremely aggressive, capping just for the hell of it. This half kill is activated when any pot reaches $200, unlike FW where a player has to win two in a row for the kill to activate. That is a huge part of the reason the players jam it in, they are making sure every pot is going to qualify for the 1/2 kill so essentially it is a 30-60 limit. So if your temper can withstand the bankroll swings, that is a terrific game to play @EB. When your hands hold up, your payoff is huge. Getting them to hold up with 6 players into the river every hand is the real challenge. And if you bluff easy, pass this game up. Trust me.

Will HYU when I return. As it stands now, I just cancelled another 8 day stay Labor Day week in favor of going to FW. I know I will always have a 20-40 stud or 75-150 stud game available no matter what time of day/night I choose to play.

Until EB is certain that they can not get top dollar for every game, every room and every amenity they offer, it is going to be slim pickings for poker players. Not all games are scarce, mind you. The 1-3 NL, 2-5 NL and 5-10 NL go off regularly. I saw lists and even games going for 25-50 NL too. But the mid limit games were a no-show the majority of the days/nights I was there.

This may be premature as they are open only 6 weeks. So until their bottom line drags below what top dollar for everything translates into, I expect them not to lower the prices on anything including time/rake, pit minimums and dining. BTW, I only ate the buffet once in 8 days and it was nothing to write home about. The Asian buffet offerings are a joke. Seriously? That's the best you can do? Dried out, leathery pot stickers and noodles that were also dried out. The sushi is sparse and laughable. Prime rib looked good as did the hanger steak. The salads were pre-plated and for the most part bland and sad. The dessert offerings were the best thing there. At $42.00 they can do better.

Lol let me know when you're at FW. I'll play 2/5 there. Encore dragged all the grinders out of FW so the 2/5 is fun again on weekends.

Meh, just park in the parking garage. It's super easy, barely an inconvenience.

That would require driving

I don't want to drive either. I wish we could use a comp dollar for the water shuttle.

Has anyone been told their point balance by a Red Card manager and found it to be significantly short?
I keep records and I should have at least 50% more than they show.

Played a week str8 and never the first comp point/dollar ever made it on my card.

Was told there were kinks that they were working on.

Certainly seemed that way today. Even Had some 5/10 regs sit down at 1/3.

Right but red card people can look it up, they just need to go to a different screen. They said I have 130ish but I know I should have around 200

Convinced the Red Card manager to give me the $150 and turned it into $160 which makes me happy because sets don’t like me today.

It’s the small victories

I read this post along with similar ones and have to check to be sure I’m in the Encore thread. I have to assume you guys are only discussing daytime (lack of) action because after 8-9pm the 2/5 games have been fantastic.

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I am having trouble understanding the comments about how difficult the 2/5 games are. I have about 100 hours in since Encore opened and the games are very soft. The old Foxwoods games were way nittier with the $500 cap.

There are a lot of new "grinders" I have never seen before, (backpacks etc) until Encore opened, majority of these players are not good. The games overall have been fantastic. Even during the day there are more actual regs, but there are always multiple spots, often including these regs. After 4pm games are always great.

There has never been a shortage of action. I think the grinder image is scaring people. Play with a lot of these guys an hour and they have huge holes in their games, and add on the guys there to dump and these have been the best games I've ever played except for maybe LA.

I live just outside of Boston and I'm still having trouble getting over how close this all is.

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I am having trouble understanding the comments about how difficult the 2/5 games are. I have about 100 hours in since Encore opened and the games are very soft. The old Foxwoods games were way nittier with the $500 cap.


The 2/5 game was the toughest in the house when I was there. No action, nothing but nut hunters. Glad to see this was just an anomaly during the 8 days I was there and played them.

They were filled with regs that came prepared for frequent stints of giving no action without the nuts, i.e. crossword puzzles, hard cover books, kindles, phone content.

I would advise to either play 1/3 or 5/10. Better action with better results whenever I played them.

By early evening there are typically 8 or more 2/5 games running during the week. The number of tables running alone should show how good the games are. There are not that many good players in the player pool to fill those tables.

I have not played 5/10. From what I have seen and heard these games generally are not good. During peak times they look better with less regs.

A good game does not mean players dump 200+ BBs w top pair like stories you here from 2005. Patience is key.

I find it a perfect balance of “regs” most of which are face-up and at best breakeven players. I saw room loaded with FW regs who are only break even when their comp files are included. When you combine the evening action players with the face up bad regs it is an extremely profitable game.

I haven't put in as much time at 2-5 NL as 2-2 PLO but 2-2 PLO people overvalue every made hand and every draw like it is a flip or they're favorites with a wrap, etc... 1-3 NL is full of semi-competent people sprinkled amongst the gamblers. 5-10 NL just looks bad from watching every fold around or being overly aggressive putting the pressure on.

Unfortunately everyone keeps saying the limit games are dying and they might well be and there is too small an edge when factoring rake/time and more. I really hope that is not the case. I've been trying to learn Badugi and 2-7 Triple Draw since it is so common in the 20-40 mix now and I do want to give it a go.

[QUOTE=desire;55345217] I think like any room in the country timing is everything. I honestly would never play the 2/5, 5/10 etc midweek during the day. And that's probably basically anywhere in the country including LA and FL. While I might have a slight edge in the long run, just not worth it

I've only played 5/10+ at Encore either on Friday nights or Saturday afternoon into evenings and have found the games overall excellent. Especially when they have 3-5+ 5/10s running. Same I imagine with when they have 15+ 2/5s running. 5/10 has must moves so can't really table select. 2/5 you can. Timing and selection.

Now if you're on vacation for multiple days, a different story of course! 😀

"The 20-40 half kill HE game was off the charts when it did run. Cost 120 and more to see a flop every hand, I kid you not. They are tough and extremely aggressive, capping just for the hell of it. This half kill is activated when any pot reaches $200, unlike FW where a player has to win two in a row for the kill to activate. That is a huge part of the reason the players jam it in, they are making sure every pot is going to qualify for the 1/2 kill so essentially it is a 30-60 limit. So if your temper can withstand the bankroll swings, that is a terrific game to play @EB. When your hands hold up, your payoff is huge. Getting them to hold up with 6 players into the river every hand is the real challenge. And if you bluff easy, pass this game up. Trust me."

To be clear, you're referring to straight limit hold'em? If so, that is my biggest disappointment following this thread. I live in Canada and have been eyeing a visit with the hope of seeing a regular limit holdem game 20/40 and higher being played regularly. Very disappointed to seeing it run 1-2 weekly at most from my daily research on Poker Atlas.

Unless I stand corrected?

20-40 straight limit hold'em runs about 4 days a week but the players are very disappointed in the turnout and think it is a dying game. Some started playing the 20-40 mix when it was HOS/HOE but haven't played it since it went HOEBT. I haven't played the HOEBT since I want to learn more about the draw games too.

They were playing 40-80 straight limit hold'em Sat night.

To be clear, you're referring to straight limit hold'em? If so, that is my biggest disappointment following this thread. I live in Canada and have been eyeing a visit with the hope of seeing a regular limit holdem game 20/40 and higher being played regularly. Very disappointed to seeing it run 1-2 weekly at most from my daily research on Poker Atlas.

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The 20-40 Limit with 1/2 kill ran most days, but was sporadic, seldom running for more than 1-3 hours and without a full table. Same players.

The 20-40 HOS is a much better choice, IMO, or at least was when I was there.

Also, like a previous poster here mentioned, this was mid week. The 20-40 stud didn't go on the Friday & Saturday I was there until late afternoon and as late as 8 at night. The low limit NL games are plentiful. Lots of PLO to choose from too. For my choices, 20-40, 40-80, 75-150, 80-160, EB is not running these on a regular enough basis to warrant another trip anytime soon. Cancelled my week long EB Labor Day trip and booked FW.

Again, EB is just up and running. Hopefully they will build these games as time goes on. They have a few holes to fill in their operations such as comp dollars being allocated and finding a better way to deal with player misbehavior that was rampant, only in the 20-40 HOS and STUD games though. Some off those regs are just seeing how much they can get away with but sadly that translates into slowing down the game almost every single down. At 8 bucks time per half hour, that bites bad. FW wouldn't tolerate half the bs that EB is dealing with and that is because they are a new operation. A few more months or even weeks and I can't see them putting up with some of the petty beefs that erupt almost every down.

The one guy that was given a 24 hour walk would have been bounced from Borgata or FW for at least a week and maybe even longer given his conduct. One east coast floor at EB told me he would have bounced him for life had he told him to go f himself and loud enough for all to hear.

All that being said, I hope they go gangbusters. They are a much nicer casino than FW, have more to offer in amenities, location and swag. Lots of swag. Can't wait until they iron out their kinks and I get to go back.

Is there a trick to getting the parking $1 comp dollar to work? I see I have a comp balance online, but when I inserted my red card to pay it said something like “discount not available.”

Edit: Looks like it now shows me a $0 comp balance online which is weird because a week ago it said $4 for the 4 hours of poker I played. I guess thats the issue.

How have you guys gotten the $1 parking from just poker? Or have you all been hitting the blackjack to grind out one comp dollar since the $22 you save in parking probably makes it plus EV?