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09-10-2011 , 01:21 AM
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Originally Posted by steeser
Here is a brief report from Northville Downs, from about a week and a half ago. It was one of those dream kind of sessions where every move I made I was right. Every time I needed to duck some outs, I was able to dodge them, and any time I needed a card to make my hand, I was able to make it.

In my first major hand, I was in the SB with T7o. Folded around to the bad player on the button who chop-blocked limped, I completed, and the BB (aggressive spewy regular - ASR for now) checked. The button was a bad player, who had a tendency to donk out into pots where he was out of position. After witnessing this a few times I was able to take a pot away from him earlier in the orbit after he called my pre-flop raise and donked the flop. Flop comes 773. Often I lead this flop, but I decided to check given who the other 2 players were in the hand. Surprisingly it gets checked around. Turn is a 4. I check, hoping somebody will stab at it, and it gets checked around again. The river is another 4, making the board 77344. Now I bet $10, ASR folds, and the button raises to $30 (with about $145 more behind, which I cover). After thinking about it for about 15-30 seconds, I shove, which is a slight overbet. My plan is to test the Zeebo theorem (if any of you guys around earlier in the days of online poker remember), that most players will not fold a full house. He debates for about a minute, looks like he is leaning towards a fold, and then calls. I show my hand, and he nods and shows T4 offsuit. Shocking that I was able to get $175 out of him on the river, when the pot started at $6.

After I have gotten my stack at about 400 or so, I really start attacking some of the passive limpers. I would say that I am able to pick up 10-15 pots uncontested after 1-2 limps in the next 2 hours or so, just by raising anywhere from $12-16, so I feel that I have very good control of the table.

A short while later, ASR limps UTG, there are a few more limpers and I check in the BB with QTo. Flop comes J9x. Check to ASR who bets 10, LP calls, and I call. Turn is a K (told you I was hitting good). ASR bets 25, LP calls, and I raise to 75. ASR shoves for 135 total, and LP folds and I call. He asks if I have a straight and the river blanks and my hand is good. He doesn't show but says he had JJ. Not so sure I believe him. He doesn't seem the type to limp JJ.

I win another $100 on another hand with an older regular when my overpair holds against a flush draw with one overcard.

Another hand with ASR. I am really starting to roll at this point. He has rebought in for 200, and may even be up to 250, which I easily cover. Straddled pot by UTG. Fold to me and I raise to 15 UTG+1 with JJ. ASR calls, and there is one other caller in position, so pot is about $50. Flop comes 776. I lead $25, and ASR immediately and confidently says "$50." I'm not inclined to believe he has a 7 here, as he isn't the loosest of players pre-flop, and I also think he would have re-raised QQ+. After the other caller folds, I decide to make it $150, and he quickly folds.

Like I said in the beginning, just one of those sessions where everything went right and you feel like you can do no wrong. There was definitely some good strong play thrown in as well, but often the two can run hand in hand. I've definitely been on the other side of things, so I know the feeling.
Steeser are you a regular at Northville?
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09-10-2011 , 01:23 AM
What do you guys think about the action at MCC? It seems to me the tables are extremely nitty especially during the day, with occasional loose tables. In my experience if you bounce around tables its decent action.

I am also a regular at Northville downs pokerroom; consistently good action. It's not as crazy as snookers, but there is a good table dynamic and a lot of limp cally stations that won't go too crazy unless they have a made hand pretty much.

I have heard a lot of negative things about MGM's action, but am itching for different scenery. Is it ever worth the trip to MGM?
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09-10-2011 , 01:31 AM
Northville back in the day (last year) was great. Now a days its pretty nitty, the quality of action is much better at docs. Because to be quite frank you're playing with people that have more money and play more aggro.
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09-10-2011 , 04:57 AM
had a meh night tonight, but i don't want to be results orientated. Really happy with my reads and play tonight. Even tho i was down $245 tonight.
In the tournament I tried to create a tough spot on a semi decent player. This however was one of the spots where my read was off.
Normally i don't make plays but decided that this was a pretty good spot. I raised Ahkh preflop to 1250 at 200/400. People seem to not to be too sure if i am a maniac or a solid player. I have a table full of nits because all the Lag/**** players just busted out. The only spewy player who has played 5 straight hands in a row decided to call and defend his small blind.
the flop comes Qs6sJh and he decided to donk bet into me. My read was he wasn't that strong. So for like the first time ever i decided to float with Air. i think at this point he has Flush draws and weak Kings maybe a Jack.
Turn comes the Js on a Qs6sJhJs. I decided that if he bets close to the same amount that he is weak and i am going with my read. If he has a Queen he should be folding here 100% if he has a Jack then it is possible he folds as i have alot of fold equity. Also i think he can't call here because of the three spades on the board.
Well he fires out same bet. 2k. And i knew he didn't like the spade and it is possible he doesn't like the 2nd jack. I picked up on the fact that he wasn't to happy. So i shipped for 15k+ at 200/400. Villain tanks.
Results later....
So i exit and walk around as Break is in 2 minutes. I notice Adam and introduce myself. We talk for alittle bit but i decided to leave him alone as he was playing cash. Nice guy.
I Sit down at a cash table and notice Chris and a couple of other people who where regulars. I like my table alot. As long as i can avoid a hand with Chris i should make some decent money. I buy in for my usual $200 and sitdown w $125.
I get QQ like 2 or 3 times and everytime i have to pretty much check fold the flop. I considered Jamming all in pre w QQ on a XXK board as i am positive villain has KJ and i don't think he calls. But i elect to just forfeit my $15ish raise preflop and find another spot.
Interesting hand comes up with other solid regular Against the Woman who is a complete Maniac and fires away at every ****ing pot. like i don't understand how she wins money. She Blast and Blast and Blast. Probably one of the spewiest Preflop regulars there. he wins $700+ pot w JJ as he Rivers the set. I could only hope and wait for her to make a mistake. I pick up a Read preflop and noticed it later on 2 times. i am starting to get better with my reads.

So i decided to raise w Ac9c to $12. Why? i don't know. I have a image that is tight and i am in position i guess. (cutoff) Pretty much i get 5-6 callers i think so pot is $70+.
The flop comes 7xJc6c and utg leads out for $17. i am pretty sure he has a weak jack or two pair. Then Spazzy regular who can play decent RR to something crazy. Like $60-$70 maybe more. I am not 100% sure. i think he has sets 20%-30% of the time. I think he has openended straight draw 10% of the time. i believe he calls w those mostly. and i think 70% of the time he has the Flush Draw in this situation. I look at my stack which is $135ish and decided it was a good stack to jam as i think utg might call as well w his Jack a small %. I also think that Spazzy reg might have a open ended Flush draw. So i jam.
Reg flips over Kc7c for 2nd nut flush draw and middle pair. Ac9c with 7 +6 outs Gives me a 48.687%. KC7c holds 51.3%. I like my play there. $70+ $17+ $effective stack ??? Turn and River Brick and Reg wins.
Your guys thoughts??

So then this scenario happens Everyone leaves the table that is Dead Money. Everyone else is tight. Only one other player who is super solid and capable of making plays. Everyone else i think is Weak Passive and decided to switch gears.

Pretty happy with my reads for the most part. i Make like 2 or 3 mistakes by calling (i hate pocket tens). But for the sake of reads i decided to call one of those hands on the River. It was a $20 spew and guy had Quad 6s.
So for the most part i build my stack up to over $260 And decided at the end of the night to play alittle more aggressive.
I am on the button and Raise to $12 w KQ. Flop comes 10d 7d ? everyone checks. Turn is a 3 that shouldn't of helped anyone, I bet $22 maybe $32 on the Turn as everyone checked. Fish Accidentally Puts More chips over the line. And dealer makes him make a raise. Now it is $51 more on me and i have lol King high. Opps Dealer took my Thunder Away. And in some odd way. I think that my King high was actually good. I think the guy was on a Medium flush draw w no pair.
He gets Pretty Pissed at the Dealer. And even tho he wins the pot. He is All pissy.
So i now have a stack of $170+ cause of my little mishap. I am now down $200 for my session and it is coming closer to 2am

I Raise the Next hand W AK to $17 and Angry Fish Annouces "ALL IN" he looks Pissed. (might of been a bad read). I am like wtf. Dealer says $117 more.So i think for a bit and decided to call thinking he has AQ AJ some of the time here, but Mostly MIddle pocket pairs and doesn't want to play post flop out of position. i think he has something like 8s-10s. I decided to Flip hoping to get lucky As i am due for Ak to win in Cash. Surprisingly Angry Fish shows JJ. It holds. Now i am sitting with $55.
Last hand comes i look down at QJo. flop comes x x J and i am like wee. i lead out for $10 and fish is like "All In".(he was actually meaning to put me all in w my small stack but said "ALLin" so he committed his chips w $300+) I lol and am like wtf. Solid reg Tanks. i am like wtf some more. Know i know solid reg has a Jack as well and is trying to figure out if it is worth him winning the side pot of$250- $300. he tanks. Now i am like what does the Angry fish have. Reg folds and i think my Jack is good. Not that i have much left.(Happy Meal for Two fat people like me) So i decided to go with my read and call. LOL QJ>J7 and i double up.

Pretty much that was my Night Hope you guys are enjoying the TR. I honestly Never Really Got Any great spots to accumulate chips. QQ lost the minimum 3 times and the3 out of 4 times i had Tens i lost the minimum. (bad $20 River call)
Made a Pretty Good Play W AA but some how Spazz made a pretty good fold. he had QT on Q x x ss board.
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09-10-2011 , 05:07 AM
By the way does anyone Care? Not sure why i am doing these TR. I guess it is because i suffer from Insomnia and everyone else is sleeping. I really like to think about hands afterwards. Maybe it because i miss online and am trying to fill the void. But if you guys hate my TR let me know. I will stop if so. IF you like them also please let me know.
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09-10-2011 , 07:14 AM
I like the TR's.
I am home now.
Was thinking that I was going to go to the o/8 game, but Ill probably just crash 2B9s boxing match party.
Sleep is needed. A full TR is in the works.
What is the best way to post all of the pictures we have?
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09-10-2011 , 08:24 AM
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Originally Posted by the village idiot1
By the way does anyone Care? Not sure why i am doing these TR. I guess it is because i suffer from Insomnia and everyone else is sleeping. I really like to think about hands afterwards. Maybe it because i miss online and am trying to fill the void. But if you guys hate my TR let me know. I will stop if so. IF you like them also please let me know.
Love them. Wish I had been writing them since I started playing. Easier to go back to key hands and re-evaluate them. I still have some hands stuck in my head that I usually go to sleep thinking, "How the **** did he call me with that??"
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09-10-2011 , 09:42 AM
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Originally Posted by the village idiot1
By the way does anyone Care? Not sure why i am doing these TR. I guess it is because i suffer from Insomnia and everyone else is sleeping. I really like to think about hands afterwards. Maybe it because i miss online and am trying to fill the void. But if you guys hate my TR let me know. I will stop if so. IF you like them also please let me know.
yeah i man i like reading these. i like this thread in general and love the amount of activity. i usually check back here every day or 2 and am finally getting used to the fact that if its been over 24 hours since i last was on, i'm probably gonna have to go through 2-4 pages just to catch up on all the action.

caveman has a good point of being able to refer back to hands. i too will sometimes fall asleep thinking.... huh? wait? that happened, right? wtf

i think after reading some more TRs i'll eventually get around to putting one of my own down. i'll probably keep it pretty short to start tho.

on jose's advice, next time i've got a full day to myself (i think it's close to time for a week off of work), i'll make the early trip to snookers and get in on the tourns. this place just sounds like too much fun.

on another note, i met a guy last night that is really into poker and definitely a much larger BR than my own could lead to some good times. related to that, he said he's been playing greektown lately and i'm curious as to your guys thoughts cuz from what i read here MCC is the place to be.

final note..... wtf is up with that boxxy? i decided to watch that video ScreaminAsian posted (tho jose's reaction should have been enough to pass) because like VI, i was curious. anyway, weird chick indeed.

to those playing, gl at the tables today! probably gonna play the weird 130 3kings tourn since i'm busy tonight.

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09-10-2011 , 11:01 AM
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Originally Posted by the village idiot1
By the way does anyone Care? Not sure why i am doing these TR. I guess it is because i suffer from Insomnia and everyone else is sleeping. I really like to think about hands afterwards. Maybe it because i miss online and am trying to fill the void. But if you guys hate my TR let me know. I will stop if so. IF you like them also please let me know.
+1 on keeping the TR rolling. I love discussing strategy, but not sure how much the mods will allow. Will post my thoughts on your latest TR later.
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09-10-2011 , 11:22 AM
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Originally Posted by Pay4Myschool
What do you guys think about the action at MCC? It seems to me the tables are extremely nitty especially during the day, with occasional loose tables. In my experience if you bounce around tables its decent action.

I am also a regular at Northville downs pokerroom; consistently good action. It's not as crazy as snookers, but there is a good table dynamic and a lot of limp cally stations that won't go too crazy unless they have a made hand pretty much.

I have heard a lot of negative things about MGM's action, but am itching for different scenery. Is it ever worth the trip to MGM?
I honestly think the action at MCC is best out of the 3 casinos. I think I am pretty much done with going to MGM based on my last few experiences there, unless I really need a change of scenery. I can't speak much for Greektown, as I refuse to go there nowadays. But in my limited experience the action has been decent. Somewhere between MGM and MCC. You do get quite a few stragglers that come from the Tigers game, but usually they only buy in for $50, so it doesn't really matter.

I honestly think I am going to have to start hitting up charity rooms more. Some of the TR's I am reading are blowing my mind on how terrible the play is. You get some bad tables in casinos, but not like you guys are describing, and not during the middle of the week. I have only played cash at a charity room once (Northville Downs) and I busted when my AA got all in preflop with KK and JJ, and a K hit (pretty standard for me btw). But from the limited time I was there I remember the action being good.

Also, I have noticed a lot of lurkers who have been posting in this thread recently. That is a good thing, but I hope some of are willing to ante up in our mixed game on Thursday nights at Trip Kings. $3 rake, we get whatever we want. Open your horizon to something other than NLHE. We are not that good at these games, so anyone that plays is not at a major disadvantage, especially with such a low rake. If we get some stragglers from the main room to come play, then this actually becomes a very +EV game for anyone with half a brain. Plus, you would be surprised on how some of the skills that you can learn from these other games translate into NLHE.
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09-10-2011 , 11:52 AM
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Originally Posted by twoblack9s
Also, I have noticed a lot of lurkers who have been posting in this thread recently. That is a good thing, but I hope some of are willing to ante up in our mixed game on Thursday nights at Trip Kings. $3 rake, we get whatever we want. Open your horizon to something other than NLHE. We are not that good at these games, so anyone that plays is not at a major disadvantage, especially with such a low rake. If we get some stragglers from the main room to come play, then this actually becomes a very +EV game for anyone with half a brain. Plus, you would be surprised on how some of the skills that you can learn from these other games translate into NLHE.
i probably fall in this category, i'm new to this thread so don't have any sort of 'rep' yet playing something other than NLHE would be nice and i was always a fan of the mixed games online. i'll definitely get on board with the trip kings game soon, i'm glad you guys feel it is a good prospect.
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09-10-2011 , 12:24 PM
Looking to play tomorrow... Anyone interested in meeting up downtown or something.
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09-10-2011 , 12:27 PM
Playing in that game is a lot of fun. Even at 4/8 it is something that you can make some moeny on. In retrospect, you can lose some money, but if you buy in for $160, you can play for a long time.

More on that later... Im working, but I will try to expand on it more than what 2B9s did.
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09-10-2011 , 12:43 PM
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Originally Posted by twoblack9s

Also, I have noticed a lot of lurkers who have been posting in this thread recently. That is a good thing, but I hope some of are willing to ante up in our mixed game on Thursday nights at Trip Kings. $3 rake, we get whatever we want. Open your horizon to something other than NLHE. We are not that good at these games, so anyone that plays is not at a major disadvantage, especially with such a low rake. If we get some stragglers from the main room to come play, then this actually becomes a very +EV game for anyone with half a brain. Plus, you would be surprised on how some of the skills that you can learn from these other games translate into NLHE.
What time does it start? I love playing mixed games for a change of pace.

I'm trying to figure out when I'll have time to play though. Thank God I'm not working a real job now between the 7 kids, music, bowling, football, marching band, homework and helping to care for my Mother. I'm not finding a lot of time right now.
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09-10-2011 , 12:46 PM
Thursday's at about 6pm.
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09-10-2011 , 01:05 PM
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Originally Posted by deuceFive25
he said he's been playing greektown lately and i'm curious as to your guys thoughts cuz from what i read here MCC is the place to be.

I personally <3 greektown. I've been there at all times of the day. Obviously if you go at 1pm on a Tuesday the action will blow (unless it is the 1st or 15th of the month, lolz) but nights and weekends are great. Especially nights where there is something going on at comerica or Ford field.


MGM tilts the hell out of me since it is next to a club; however it does attract some drunk fish for that reason.
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09-10-2011 , 01:06 PM
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Originally Posted by the village idiot1
I get QQ like 2 or 3 times and everytime i have to pretty much check fold the flop. I considered Jamming all in pre w QQ on a XXK board as i am positive villain has KJ and i don't think he calls. But i elect to just forfeit my $15ish raise preflop and find another spot.
This is why we make money at these games imo. Just wait for a better spot, specially against passive players that only bet when they have it.

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Originally Posted by the village idiot1
So i decided to raise w Ac9c to $12. Why? i don't know. I have a image that is tight and i am in position i guess. (cutoff) Pretty much i get 5-6 callers i think so pot is $70+.
The flop comes 7xJc6c and utg leads out for $17. i am pretty sure he has a weak jack or two pair. Then Spazzy regular who can play decent RR to something crazy. Like $60-$70 maybe more. I am not 100% sure. i think he has sets 20%-30% of the time. I think he has openended straight draw 10% of the time. i believe he calls w those mostly. and i think 70% of the time he has the Flush Draw in this situation. I look at my stack which is $135ish and decided it was a good stack to jam as i think utg might call as well w his Jack a small %. I also think that Spazzy reg might have a open ended Flush draw. So i jam.
Reg flips over Kc7c for 2nd nut flush draw and middle pair. Ac9c with 7 +6 outs Gives me a 48.687%. KC7c holds 51.3%. I like my play there. $70+ $17+ $effective stack ??? Turn and River Brick and Reg wins.
Your guys thoughts??
See above comment. First of all, I like the raise from CO with this hand. Why not take the betting lead when you're probably ahead of most hands. I don't think you can believe you are ahead very often on the flop (smaller flush draw or a straight draw on a bluff with more action behind, not very likely). I think I am inclined to fold here. I might feel differently if I had AcQc or AcKc instead, but again, there's no reason to gamble when the table is so good. If it was a tougher table, and you weren't so shallow, I would consider continuing with the hand. Sorry, dude, I think this is probably spewy. We make money by not paying off on these types of hands, and by getting called when we have the goods.

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Originally Posted by the village idiot1
I am on the button and Raise to $12 w KQ. Flop comes 10d 7d ? everyone checks. Turn is a 3 that shouldn't of helped anyone, I bet $22 maybe $32 on the Turn as everyone checked. Fish Accidentally Puts More chips over the line. And dealer makes him make a raise. Now it is $51 more on me and i have lol King high. Opps Dealer took my Thunder Away. And in some odd way. I think that my King high was actually good. I think the guy was on a Medium flush draw w no pair.
He gets Pretty Pissed at the Dealer. And even tho he wins the pot. He is All pissy.
How many people to the flop? I think this needs a continuation bet to build the pot if you hit, and to drive away any gut shots. There is an argument to jam here as the villain can't probably call when you've shown aggression and he has been passive. BTW, villain had to put more than half a raise for it to be a raise. Was it?

Thanks for the TR, bro. Nice job!
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09-10-2011 , 02:16 PM
Sunday tournament:
Place: Snookers
Buy in: $100
Time: 4:00pm
Chips: 15,500
The structure is decent and usually over 120 players (hopefully more with this post) with 1st place paying almost $3k
Hope to see some of you there!
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09-10-2011 , 02:40 PM
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Originally Posted by Jose313
Sunday tournament:
Place: Snookers
Buy in: $100
Time: 4:00pm
Chips: 15,500
The structure is decent and usually over 120 players (hopefully more with this post) with 1st place paying almost $3k
Hope to see some of you there!
Have played in it. It is a decent structure for metro Detroit. Unfortunately takes too long to wrap up on a Sunday night for me. Good luck!
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09-10-2011 , 03:03 PM
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Originally Posted by Jose313
Sunday tournament:
Place: Snookers
Buy in: $100
Time: 4:00pm
Chips: 15,500
The structure is decent and usually over 120 players (hopefully more with this post) with 1st place paying almost $3k
Hope to see some of you there!
And don't forget free cheese burgers and fries for dinner!
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09-10-2011 , 03:35 PM
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And don't forget free cheese burgers and fries for dinner!
Just what us Ameicans need!!!
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09-10-2011 , 04:15 PM
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Originally Posted by Omaha8A2
Sounds like Gambit8888 would be all over this.
confirmed.. gambit is happy to hear this

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09-10-2011 , 05:06 PM
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Just what us fat asses need!!!
FYP
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09-10-2011 , 09:49 PM
Wow, one fat joke and I kill the thread... <--- 6'1" and 240lbs.
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09-10-2011 , 09:55 PM
On my way Downtown with Omaha8A2.... gogogogogogogo
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