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Originally Posted by DTEJD1997
THANK YOU! I should have brought this point up, but my brain is only at half speed today.
You make a very good point. IF MC is going to take market back, NOW is the time to do it. Step up their game and get it done.
That could very easily be accomplished....lower rake, get promotions going (especially a tie in with sports book?), bring food back & improve it. Get the main room remodeled a bit, spiff it up a little.
Maybe turn the overflow room into a "high roller" area? cordon it off, put in better chairs & tables? Then turn the "overflow" area on the main floor into a tournament area & super overflow area.
Any casino that scoffs at poker players is foolish! I was talking to a few players that next to me through the night, these guys were absolute degens on the sports betting parlays. THAT is exactly the type of customer the casino wants. I was shocked at how bad the payoffs were on the parlays.
Lower rake promotions almost never work. The majority of the pool doesn't care and the only ones who are going to care are the total nits who make the games awful to begin with. I mean while MC was losing their player pool to MGM they were offering rake free tables during certain times. You want to find a dying room, look for one that offers reduced rake or promotions that force a player to have "x" amount of hours for reward.
Tournaments in Detroit are done. Casino management isn't going to spend the money on dealers for it. I don't doubt that the union troubles that came up because of temp dealers dealing the tournaments at MotorCity sealed that rooms fate. MGM won't go back to them so long as they're still tops in cash games. Greektown might be the only casino that could do it since they don't really have a player pool.
As for the sportsbook, remember they have to split that up with Fanduel and at the end of the day the real cash cow there is the mobile app. Players are going to play Fanduel anyways if the poker room is there or not.
There is a bigger problem for live casino poker. In the state of Michigan last night there were only three 2-5 games running and nothing higher then 2-5. Again the whole state of Michigan on a Saturday night and no major casino or indian casino could muster up more then three 2-5 games. Right now you have a bunch of rake traps at 1-2 or 1-3. I don't see a room full of 1-2 with 100-150 dollars every hour being taking off the table as a good thing.
Last edited by Atarirob; 11-26-2023 at 10:07 PM.