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12-17-2011 , 03:50 PM
How did you get in the tourn.?
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12-17-2011 , 04:31 PM
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Originally Posted by Turdzilla
How did you get in the tourn.?
I think he meant they started a second $250 tournament because they had so many people there to play the first one. And he was #26 already in the second tournament.
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12-17-2011 , 04:32 PM
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Originally Posted by gambit8888
Just got to Cadas.. let the fun begin.
I hope they don't sell out all their chips for the craziness tonight.
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12-17-2011 , 05:14 PM
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Originally Posted by Omaha8A2
I hope they don't sell out all their chips for the craziness tonight.
No kidding....have you talked to them to ensure that won't be the case?
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12-17-2011 , 05:15 PM
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Originally Posted by Omaha8A2
I think he meant they started a second $250 tournament because they had so many people there to play the first one. And he was #26 already in the second tournament.
Yes, this is correct. The first $250 tournament had a 60 player cap sold out within 15min of opening. I arrived at 11:30 and was #26th for the 2nd $250 tournament, they both started at 1pm and used the same clock. Registration closed at first break with 45 players in the 2nd tournament. They also allowed players who busted from the first tournament to play the 2nd tournament. On break Cada's Room announced they were serving complimentary pizza to all.
I regret to announce that I was eliminated at 300/600 with JJ
The chip leader at my table was young and aggressive raising alot of hands 3x with avg hands. I have 17k and raise to 1,500 he 3bets to 5k and I push (he 3bet earlier with QJ) he calls with KK
I actually liked the kids game, he used his chips and mixed it up and was hard to read. Tough to lay my hand down to a player like him...especially since I couldn't get anything going.
I'm glad the tournament was a success and they see that [this is what poker players are looking for] great tournaments with good prize pools and good structure. After I busted the tournament I congratulated Patrick on the success of the tournament. I also suggested getting a Double Shootout monthly tournament 2 weeks apart from the $250 monthly. He liked the idea and also stated a few ideas he had for Cada's Room. Patrick seems to care about the players and what we want, not only the business side of the place. I see big things coming outta Cada's Room soon.
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12-17-2011 , 07:34 PM
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Originally Posted by Pharoah00
They actually had a 6 max tournament monday at nvd. Horrible structure though. Starting stacks at 10000, 15 min levels, 25/50 50/100 100/200 200/400 300/600

The starting stack for the 6-handed tourney was changed after the first week to 20K in chips. The blind structure is, and has been, much better than you referenced... The correct blind structure is:

100 100
100 200
200 400
300 600
400 800
500 1,000
600 1,200
800 1,600
1,000 2,000
1,500 3,000
2,000 4,000
3,000 6,000
4,000 8,000
5,000 10,000
6,000 12,000
8,000 16,000
10,000 20,000
15,000 30,000
20,000 40,000
30,000 60,000
40,000 80,000
50,000 100,000
60,000 120,000
80,000 160,000
100,000 200,000
150,000 300,000
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12-17-2011 , 07:41 PM
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Originally Posted by Jose313
I think if they want business on Sunday they need to offer something different than a good structure to get the customers. Maybe a different form of poker that no other room offers, like a "Double Shootout" tournament. It's similar to playing 2 Sit&Go's. Buy in $100, cap at 100 players(10 players per Itable) play down to one winner at each table. The 10 winners from each table combine to make the Final Table and payouts begin. It's a fun tournament and I'm surprised it hasn't been done in the area yet.
Who in this thread would try this tournament out if it was offered at a poker room in the area?
We tried a shootout at Trippers (Lansing) and it was very difficult because some tables were done within an hour or two, and the last table to finish took twice as long. A lot of people were left standing around and pissed about the wait.
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12-17-2011 , 08:23 PM
At the party, have a PLO8 and NLHE table going. Place is packed! Free tshirts and food!
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12-17-2011 , 09:05 PM
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Originally Posted by Schudog
We tried a shootout at Trippers (Lansing) and it was very difficult because some tables were done within an hour or two, and the last table to finish took twice as long. A lot of people were left standing around and pissed about the wait.
The starting stack and structure of these should be ran more like a Sit n Go then a regular tournament. Maybe 5,000 chips and 15min levels for the first round and 10,000 chips, 30min levels on Final Table.
If someone is mad because they finish their table quickly and has to wait an hour or so for the final table then they got serious issues. I mean play cash games or Blackjack, grab a bite to eat, get a beer and watch the game. How many people do you think wait for the second round in a HU tournament with 128 players? Answer 64 then next round 32 next round 16 etc...
With a Double Shootout only 1 round until the Final Table and only 10 make it. Are HU tournaments not a good idea either?
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12-17-2011 , 11:07 PM
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Originally Posted by Schudog
The starting stack for the 6-handed tourney was changed after the first week to 20K in chips. The blind structure is, and has been, much better than you referenced... The correct blind structure is:

100 100
100 200
200 400
300 600
400 800
500 1,000
600 1,200
800 1,600
1,000 2,000
1,500 3,000
2,000 4,000
3,000 6,000
4,000 8,000
5,000 10,000
6,000 12,000
8,000 16,000
10,000 20,000
15,000 30,000
20,000 40,000
30,000 60,000
40,000 80,000
50,000 100,000
60,000 120,000
80,000 160,000
100,000 200,000
150,000 300,000
the jump from 10k/20k and 15k/30k is an inconsistently large jump compared to the rest of the structure. consider putting 12/24k in there to the delight of all patrons.
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12-18-2011 , 01:31 AM
Omaha8A2 did a great job on the meet-up. Good company, good food, good cards and a free t-shirt. How do you beat that? PLO8 may be my new favorite game. Thanks Frank
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12-18-2011 , 04:04 AM
Definitely a great time. Omaha did a great job setting it up, and Cada's is first class all the way. Too bad it's so damn far from my house.

A lot of memorable hands were played by me, as I think I played the role of table maniac. Hopefully somebody posts about the hands from a perspective outside of my own.
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12-18-2011 , 04:07 AM
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Originally Posted by Turdzilla
Omaha8A2 did a great job on the meet-up. Good company, good food, good cards and a free t-shirt. How do you beat that? PLO8 may be my new favorite game. Thanks Frank
You're welcome! Thanks to all who made it out. I think everyone had a good time. I think crazyb16 set the over/under for # of TRs at 3.5. Can't wait to read everyone's feedback.
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12-18-2011 , 04:10 AM
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Originally Posted by steeser
Definitely a great time. Omaha did a great job setting it up, and Cada's is first class all the way. Too bad it's so damn far from my house.

A lot of memorable hands were played by me, as I think I played the role of table maniac. Hopefully somebody posts about the hands from a perspective outside of my own.
You actually reminded me of me at my last PLO8 game lol. You played pretty good imo. I'm too tired to post that 66 hand you and JoePo played. So crazy.
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12-18-2011 , 04:14 AM
definitely a fun night, going to sleep. will post a tr tomorrow but will prolly suck
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12-18-2011 , 11:23 AM
Highlights from last night (thanks, Gambit, for the hangover):

Started with a nice spread from Cada's room. Thanks to Patrick for the chow and the private tables.

Twenty of the 34 RSVPs showed up, not bad. We had two tables reserved, one ran PLO8 and later Stud Hi-Lo. The other was strictly NLHE, but the 7-2 game was on to liven up the action.

Never got to play the PLO8/Stud Hi Lo table since I was fourth on the list and no one wanted to leave the game. Sounded like some crazy hands went down at that table, so I'm hoping some people will post some of the most notable ones. At the NLHE table, it was like single-tabling a table online. No limped pots, close to 50% 3-bets pre-flop, and some people losing their minds on a couple of hands over 200bb deep (fun!).

Beat: underestimated the size of the typical 2+2er.

Brag: Won 7-2 game more than anyone else (60% success rate).

Probably best part was getting to meet all you guys. Thanks for coming out. Let's do it again next year.

#moretripreportsplease
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12-18-2011 , 02:37 PM
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Originally Posted by Omaha8A2
...Beat: underestimated the size of the typical 2+2er...
If I'd shown up I would have helped bring down the average a bit.
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12-18-2011 , 04:01 PM
OK, OK so I sucked out on Joker AK>AA with runner/runner flush. That bad beat story got around faster than O8 folds the second nuts to a half pot river bet in PLO. 15 minutes after it I'm in the bathroom and the next urinal over says, "I hear you cracked Jokers aces." then I stop at the bar to get a coke and the waitress say, "you're the guy who sucked out on Joker, right." I can only assume Joker is so unused to getting it in good that this is a rare experience for him.
Anyway, I have a hand that will cheer joker up and have everyone else wondering why I had any chips left after midnight. stud8 5/10 and I bring it in for 2 with 3up 5Q in the hole. Joker completes to my left with a 4 and after 3 or 4 callers I throw in 3 more. Joker catches A and bets - two callers and I call after catching 6. Joker catches a 4 for a pair and I catch 7 for board 367. He bets 5 (we were still betting 5 til 6th st.) one caller and I raise...call, call. Then joker catches J and I catch 5 pairing my hole. It goes check/check to me and I hear Todd Brunson's voice in my head saying take the free card and I check my 3675 board. As soon as I check I start shaking my head and thinking what an idiot I am. I look across the table and someone is looking funny at me and I smile like I know just what I'm doing and making an advanced play. Then I catch a T down and it goes check/check/check and joker flips over 8low and a pair of fours. third man folds and I muck apparently forgetting that 5s are bigger than 4s. Joker sweeps pot. You're welcome.

One more hand: PLO8 Rob button straddles 5. I'm one of 4 callers UTG and raised to 35 in late pos. Rob calls. BB calls and I push almost all in for ~180. Painfuls folds all around. I say I had kings and raiser bets $1000 I didn't saying he had KK. Dealer had already raked in my cards but they were AKK3. So I'm sure the check is in the mail.

Great time. Thanks O8. My only regret was that you were walking for my 2-7 win.
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12-18-2011 , 04:07 PM
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Originally Posted by networth
OK, OK so I sucked out on Joker AK>AA with runner/runner flush. That bad beat story got around faster than O8 folds the second nuts to a half pot river bet in PLO. 15 minutes after it I'm in the bathroom and the next urinal over says, "I hear you cracked Jokers aces." then I stop at the bar to get a coke and the waitress say, "you're the guy who sucked out on Joker, right." I can only assume Joker is so unused to getting it in good that this is a rare experience for him.
Anyway, I have a hand that will cheer joker up and have everyone else wondering why I had any chips left after midnight. stud8 5/10 and I bring it in for 2 with 3up 5Q in the hole. Joker completes to my left with a 4 and after 3 or 4 callers I throw in 3 more. Joker catches A and bets - two callers and I call after catching 6. Joker catches a 4 for a pair and I catch 7 for board 367. He bets 5 (we were still betting 5 til 6th st.) one caller and I raise...call, call. Then joker catches J and I catch 5 pairing my hole. It goes check/check to me and I hear Todd Brunson's voice in my head saying take the free card and I check my 3675 board. As soon as I check I start shaking my head and thinking what an idiot I am. I look across the table and someone is looking funny at me and I smile like I know just what I'm doing and making an advanced play. Then I catch a T down and it goes check/check/check and joker flips over 8low and a pair of fours. third man folds and I muck apparently forgetting that 5s are bigger than 4s. Joker sweeps pot. You're welcome.

One more hand: PLO8 Rob button straddles 5. I'm one of 4 callers UTG and raised to 35 in late pos. Rob calls. BB calls and I push almost all in for ~180. Painfuls folds all around. I say I had kings and raiser bets $1000 I didn't saying he had KK. Dealer had already raked in my cards but they were AKK3. So I'm sure the check is in the mail.

Great time. Thanks O8. My only regret was that you were walking for my 2-7 win.
there's a lot of clubs in that deck
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12-18-2011 , 05:16 PM
Lotta clubs and a lotta Qs. Saw this whippersnapper cashing out multiple racks. Not even old enough to blow it booze. What a waste.
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12-18-2011 , 05:58 PM
Sounds like I owe you $5, Networth. MA did make a killing and broke even at 7-2.
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12-18-2011 , 06:09 PM
Can JoePo or Steeser post the hand where you ran it twice. That was a fun one.
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12-18-2011 , 07:26 PM
Trip Report from twoplustwo Meetup at Cada's

It was really great to meet everyone last night. I'm glad that I made some connections after being in the area a while, and every person I met seemed genuine and easygoing. Just a really cool group. It was very nice of Cada's to host the party and the place is run well. They have a great and friendly
floor, efficient dealers, and an attentive waitstaff. Baller.

Regarding the game (1/2 NL): before I sat down I knew this would be the toughest 1/2 game I'd ever played and easily the toughest the Midwest US (maybe the country, lol) . I *thought* I knew something about NL Texas Hold 'Em, but after last night, I realized I don't know ****. I thought I was decent at the game, but I was steamrolled by a table full of great players. When I saw Omaha checkraise 2 out of 4 of the first pots he played in, I knew this game was going to be crazy. There were numerous 3bet pots and a well timed 4bet bluff with Q 8 that steeser claimed to have been tilted by. Heh heh...

I was card dead and ran badly for most of the night, which brought out some frustration. I definitely played too many pots with marginal holdings just because I wanted to be involved in the action. I didn't want to be the nit at the table and ended up calling stuff like KTs, J9o, 78s OOP when EVERYONE knew how to use position. Just awful calls . I would flop middle pair or OESD or FD and check/call a flop bet, 100% expecting a turn barrel, often getting one, and having to fold. I didn't have a hand to 3bet once vs a raise and was intimidated to 3bet light as I felt so outclassed ;p.

Hands that were interesting/fun:

2 limpers to me in SB with K Q, I just complete, BB checks. Flop is J96r. I lead 10, get raised to 25 and I call 15 more. About 110 effective at this point. Turn T for the nuts. I checkraise his 20 bet to 65 and he calls. I think he has something like JT, J9, QJ, KJ. River blanks, I shove, and he calls. He rolls A 6 (?????????????). Good start to the night.

I played 2 other big pots, winning one and losing one. The winning pot: I opened 33 UTG+1 to 10, CO calls, button calls, BB calls. About 160 effective. Flop comes 9 7 3. BB checks, I bet 25, 2 folds, BB makes it 65 and I shove. BB calls, and my hand holds.

The losing pot: I called steeser's raise to 10 from the SB with 9 9. Effective stacks 140 (was waiting til the next hand to rebuy). Flop comes J 5 7. I check/call 15, planning to fold to a turn barrel blank or to turn my hand into a bluff if the turn falls a diamond. Pot 55.

Turn is 4. I debated between CRAI and betting turn, shoving river. I was tilting from card-deadness and was getting into trouble by trying to force the action . I thought the CRAI would be more believable, but I thought there was too great a chance that he would check turn with overs, a high diamond, or JT,QJ,KJ,AJ with that turn. So, I lead 30. He calls fairly quickly. I mini-tank, shove river for ~80. steeser tanks and makes a good call with KJ. Did you have a read on me there? Or was it just a suspect line with donking the turn and shoving river?

One of the most interesting hands was between steeser and millsandrew. I'm not completely sure on the details including what they revealed their hands to be, but steeser makes it 10 from EP, 2 calls, millsandrew raises to 45 from the button and steeser calls, 2 folds. 210-220 BB effective. Pot is 110.

Flop comes 8 6 5 (?). steeser check/tank calls a bet of 60. Pot is 230. Turn is 7 (?). steeser checks, millsandrew bets 110, steeser deliberates a long time, and finally lays the hand down. I thought he had something like TT-QQ, which is what he claims he was trying to make it look like (well done). I didn't think millsandrew was bluffing, but I had a hard time ranging him here. He is a tricky and aggressive player. I didn't think it was likely he would barrel with A alone being deeper, but I thought he could easily have a flush, straight, or something like AA-KK with A or K. I'll let them reveal the actual hands later.

Anyways, enjoy the 2+ buy-ins I donated and I hope you don't flame my play too much. I don't know if I've ever felt like the worst player at the table, but last night, I definitely did, lol. Good to meet you all and good game, fellas. If anyone wants to get together around Southfield, or really anywhere in the area, hit me up. I would love to learn as much as I can from this knowledgeable and diverse group of players.

nilesharding
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12-18-2011 , 08:32 PM
I think we should play again in a few months, for march madness, maybe the first weekend of the tournament or final 4 weekend perhaps?
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12-18-2011 , 08:42 PM
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Originally Posted by nilesharding
Trip Report from twoplustwo Meetup at Cada's



Did you have a read on me there? Or was it just a suspect line with donking the turn and shoving river?


nilesharding
It wasn't a read I had. But I felt it was a very suspect line against me in that situation given my image.

I actually would have checked behind on the turn, but given how crazily I was playing, you couldn't have known that.
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