I had a "mini" celebrity at my table today. I was playing 1/2 NL and Pat Humphrey sits at my table. "Who is Pat Humphrey?" You all know the old couple that follows Phil Ivey around. Well Pat is the wife. I left a short time after she sat down so I don't know what kind of player she is, but I got to hear a few Phil Ivey stories before I left.

A guy to my left was kidding me about not playing many hands but I had trash most of the time. He was chasing flushes with hands like K-2s and Q-4s. In one hand someone went all-in and another guy called and this guy to my left was thinking a long time about calling them both with A-2(top pair with no kicker). He finally folded. I could have made some remarks about his play if I would have wanted to. I ended up +$65.

in pretty unreal how unprofessional the staff is here...

i was playing a 5/10 o8 game with a full kill and the floorman was treating the kill as a straddle. Everyone at the table agreed he was wrong and he stated the kill does not act in turn and he acts lasts, which is wrong. The kill acts in turn as it is just a dead blind and is not suppose to be treated as a straddle

The dealers are horrible, they know nothing

Different houses, different rules.

Most Vegas houses have the kill acting last, unless there's a raise before it. And that's the rule DP uses.

You must have a plethora of top notch poker rooms right on your very street if that is your opiinion of DE Park Poker room.

Either that or yout the type of person who crys when they don't get their way.

I will let everyone else draw their opinions as to which.

Jamie

They're both at DPark quite frequently.

Was up in Philly and decided to stop in DP on the way back to MD. Have to say this place is about the perfect local casino. Called ahead and waited maybe 15 minutes once I got there. Dealers were all pretty good. One guy mentioned he was new but he'd been a craps dealer and did great. Another looked new and was super careful in all his movements which made him slow but no errors at all the time I was there.

There was one kinda grumpy dealer who kept getting on the case of this young girl who deals at Chester. She did make a number of etiquette mistakes you wouldn't expect out of a dealer: talking in a multiway pot, moving all her chips in front of her cards. This guy chastised her for both of those which I can understand but went on to badmouth Chester and Harrahs which is a bit inappropriate - though I kinda agree with him on both counts.

Fairly uneventful night where my big hands held up and I made a decent profit. I have to say being back here after CTown I think this is a significantly nicer place and better experience but CTown is nice enough to make the hour difference in driving time the deciding factor.

Will be there about 8:30 tonight with a couple of super-donks from my home game playing 3-6. Will also put my name up for 3-6 HORSE and O8 to see if I can finally get in one of those games - they have yet to run when I'm there.

Wearing a Red hot Chili Peppers t-shirt. Say hi if you see me.

- Spike

I just got back from an afternoon/evening of playing 3/6 LHE. We added a kill pot, which seemed to build up a few huge pots and made the game more interesting. I had a few questions about how to do kill pots.

We played that you had to win 2 consecutive pots with $20 in the pot each time. If there was a hand that was won with less than $20, that would reset the count, so you could win 3 pots in a row, but if the middle one was less then $20, then you don't have a kill pot since you didn't win two $20 pots in a row. Is that usual?

We played that the person who got the kill had to post $6, but that it also acted like a straddle, meaning that person got to act last preflop. No one at the table had ever done it like that before. We asked the floor, and that's what they said.

While we were asking the floor about kill pots, I asked what if the killer was a blind in the next hand. We had been playing that the killer would post $6, but the $1 and $3 blinds also posted. So, if the small blind was on the kill, would they post just the $6 from the kill, or are they still responsible for their small blind and have to put up $7? The floor told us that they only had to put up $6.

I had two pretty bad suck-outs against me in kill pots, but I also won a kill pot, so I guess I kind of broke even in them.

Anthony - can you give us a definitive ruling these issues in kill pots?

A dealer told us that there definitely is a free roll $15,000 tournament on September 30 (which is a Thursday) if you put in 40 hours in the month of September.

Yes and no. It's standard to have a minimum pot size amount to trip the kill, although 3 and 1/3rds big bets is a little on the low side for tripping the kill. As I recall the 5/10 O/8 game at the Taj trips the kill when two $60 pots are scooped, and when I played 4/8 HE with a half kill years ago, I'm pretty sure the minimum amount was at least $40 if not $50.

Lots of places have the kill act last unless there's a raise in front of the kill.

Right. I'm pretty sure I've never had to post a blind in addition to the kill.

Different rooms have different rules regarding kill pots but nothing you've described is at all unusual, other than perhaps the relatively low pot size necessary to trip the kill.

Newbie, but have followed this thread since page 7.

I have a ruling question. When is a hand dead?

AK clubs goes all in after flop A5J (one club) I call with pocket 5's. We both flip cards, dealer turns over 7club and 10club. AK guys walks away from table thinking he lost and dealer is treating my set as the winner. Dealer is checking stacks and fails to turn over the preceived losing hand (AK). Meanwhile as this takes place, another person at the table, not in the hand, yells at the guy to come back he caught the flush. When someone walks away from table, is their hand dead?

I know I lost but when is a hand dead?

[QUOTE=daveopie;
I had two pretty bad suck-outs against me in kill pots, but I also won a kill pot, so I guess I kind of broke even /QUOTE]

What were your bad beats ? I'm wondering if I was responsible for one or both!

What's the latest tournament schedule? I have off from work this week and am thinking of going down for one if there are any at night.

I think the cards are not dead until one hits the muck. The dealer should scoop the cards (where one or less are shown) when a player surrenders. He should do this before the pot is pushed anywhere.

But, in this case, since both cards were turned up, the cards speak and the pot rightfully is the guy who stood up and started to leave. The dealer, unless he misreads, should be the guy calling the player back My take, but someone may know better.

Back from my mini-vacation, I'll try to get over to DP later this afternoon. I'm out of town this week and next and may have trouble getting an invite to the freeroll.

Just weekdays at 11:00 for 65.00 until Spetember 30. Weekends at noon for twice that. After the new room is done, they will spread night tournaments. They do run sit n go's 24/7, but nothing on the schedule for evenings this month.

Once a hand is shown down nothing the player or dealer can do can make it dead. The only way you win the pot is if the dealer pushes the pot to you and starts the next hand before anyone notices. This is also a case where every player at the table has the responsibility to point out the dealer error if they notice it.

[QUOTE=popsflops;21374472] Well, since you asked ...

There was only one 3/6 game with a kill, so one of these was probably you. Were you in the 10 seat? I was in the 1 seat. If that was you - you did very well, leaving with quite a stack of chips.

The kill is the button. I get QJs and limp in EP (a preflop raise was rare at this table, so this was pretty safe). Flop is Q84r. One of the blinds bets, I raise. 2 players call the 2 bets. Turn 3. I bet, 2 calers. River 3, I check/call to a woman who won the pot with ... 63. Why she called that pot is a mystery to me. Wow. She was sitting next to her husband and the two of them were consistantly donating a good chunk of change to the table. Although she won like $170 in that hand, she lost a few hundred overall.

For the next kill pot, I see K2o in BB, and I complete, 6 to the flop (not normally a hand I play, but I thought enough players would be in the pot to give me odds to play). I forget the exact flop, but I had top pair, so it was something like K86. I bet a get a few callers. Turn is 7, and one of the blinds bets out. I call that but fold river - he (was this you?) hit trip 7s on the turn. How did you call that flop bet? Oh well. Nice hand.

I had AQ on another kill pot, and raise preflop, which (surprisingly) did narrow the field a little bit. Flop had an A in it, and I eventually take down the pot. I was down quite a bit until then, and that started me on my path back - I eventually squeezed out a tiny win for the day.

Oh, one annoying thing about yesterday - our shuffler was broken. This is the third time in a row I've been to DP and sat at a table with a broken shuffler. The dealers are getting decent and they were able to shuffle pretty efficiently, but no where near as fast a auto-shuffler.

One dealer told me they are leased for $12,000 per month, and support comes to visit once every 2 weeks. They need to come A LOT more than that. Ours was not the only one broken. One broke in the tournament, so they turned them all off (can't have one table hand shuffling while everyone else is using the machine). As I walked through the room, it seemed kind of rare that anyone was using a machine. I think lots of them were broken.

I played at two different tables last night. A 3/6 table (perhaps table 15 or thereabouts) and the 3/6 omaha 8 game. At both tables, the auto-shufflers were turned off. My friend played at another table and same thing.

I am guessing that they were off on all tables as they try to figure out the shuffler card marking issue (discussed earlier ITT). Perhaps they just didn't want to say anything to the players about it. Can't believe that that number of shufflers all broke at the same time.

AFAIK, the time for the freeroll is being counted now for September. Accumulate 40 hours in the month of September to qualify for the $15k freeroll.

However, the freeroll won't take place until sometime during the first 2 weeks of October. Kinda hard to do a freeroll during the qualifying period.

I wouldn't use the dealers as the final concrete answer on information like this, better to go to the shift supervisor.

Sorry, Yes I was the 7's. If I remember the hand correctly, It was the first kill pot at a small pot 3-6 game. 6 or 7 went to the flop creating a large pot for a change. I guess i just got excited about all the reds in the middle

On Saturday evening the shuffler on table 20 was half broken too. It worked some times and they were using it but it was super slow when it worked and would often just give red lights for no apparent reason.

You fail implied odds 101, sir.

Today's $65 tournament had 191(!) runners.

The $150s this past weekend had 74 and 57ish respectively.

Stupid question: Where do I find out how many hours I have played? I am close but will be out of the area for a while. I can't login into my account to check so I assume at their kiosk?

Is this a level or do you really not know that the player posting the kill acts last preflop?