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08-23-2010 , 11:01 AM
We had problems with the auto-shuffler marking cards yesterday. We told the floor. He looked at the deck and determined that there were a bunch of cards that were marked (the machine was adding a crease to the cards), so he said we should just play with the deck. And we did.

On one hand, he was kind of right - there were a bunch of cards that were marked so even if you could see the crease in a card in the hand of the player next to you, it wasn't really an advantage.

On the other hand, I really don't like playing with a marked deck.

I guess the alternatives was to swap out that shuffler, which would have taken some time, or moving us to another table, which also would have taken quite some time.
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08-23-2010 , 11:14 AM
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Originally Posted by daveopie
We had problems with the auto-shuffler marking cards yesterday. We told the floor. He looked at the deck and determined that there were a bunch of cards that were marked (the machine was adding a crease to the cards), so he said we should just play with the deck. And we did.......
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I guess the alternatives was to swap out that shuffler, which would have taken some time, or moving us to another table, which also would have taken quite some time.
I had this issue about a month ago. I was at the table near that is equal distance from the podium and the cage.

A guy at our table complained enough that they changed the deck. This took a long time, and once it was changed, the next deck was getting marked too.

Maybe there is only one table that is doing this, or maybe not?
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08-23-2010 , 12:15 PM
Went yesterday for the first time, a regular 10/20 game an hour from my house would definitely get me out there more once I remembered how to play.

Jeffage, were you playing 3/6 limit yesterday at the corner table?
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08-23-2010 , 12:37 PM
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Originally Posted by jtsottles
I had this issue about a month ago. I was at the table near that is equal distance from the podium and the cage.

A guy at our table complained enough that they changed the deck. This took a long time, and once it was changed, the next deck was getting marked too.

Maybe there is only one table that is doing this, or maybe not?
I had the marked card problem about a month ago as well....it was table # 16, I had marked cards two hands in a row, I reported the first one...a Jack, and it was changed immediately. The second one was the very next hand....also a Jack. The second one was an auto shuffler mark as it turns out....a consistent mark that was starting to show on all of the cards on the table.....the first Jack, howevver, was not an auto shuffler mark....it was a diagonal corner mark made by someones chip or finger nail....a clear attempt at a mark and it was definitely not done by a machine....the floor immediatley changed out that card.
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08-23-2010 , 12:41 PM
OK - I finally have some time to type in more details of yesterday's visit.

I arrived around 12:30 and a new 3/6 LHE table soon started. I noticed the 3/6 Pineapple list and added myself to that list. I folded 4 hands of Hold'em until they called the Pineapple game. I think only 6 were on the list, but when it was called, the table filled up.

We agreed to one round of Pineapple (discard your 3rd card after preflop betting) and one round of Crazy Pineapple (discard after the flop betting). Dealers kept wanting to stop dealing after 2 cards - we'd all remind the dealer and the dealer would toss a third card. Then someone would forget to discard and the dealer would remind them. It was a very friendly game, with lots of people helping others remember the rules. At least there was not bad beat jackpot - I was earning an extra $1 on every hand I won! That's reason enough for me to play 3/6 Pineapple instead of Hold'em whenver it is running.

Worst played hand I've ever played IN MY LIFE! I get AdAcJc in small blind of Crazy Pineapple. 5 limpers and I think that looks like a great Omaha hand (although I don't play Omaha yet), but am still getting a feel for the game I just complete instead of raise. MISTAKE #1.

Flop is 78Tr. I wonder how likely it is that someone hit a straight since they have 3 cards in their hands instead of 2, and I check/call flop. MISTAKE #2. I discard the J.

Turn is a Q. MP guy had bet flop so quickly I thought he might of flopped the straight, so I check. He checks as do the other 2 in the pot. MISTAKE #3.

River is another Q. I wonder if people had the same idea about MP guy on straight that they had checked their pair of Qs on turn and now have trips, so I check. MISTAKE #4. It checks through and I meekly show my AA for a tiny pot. Like I said - worst hand in my life.

Another interesting hand was I limped in with 89J and the flop came 7TQ. Yes! I have a straight! .... NO! I have a 6 card straight and I have to throw away one of the cards. Darn. I thow away the 8, which is one of my outs. Turns out the guy next to me had the exact same hand and also discarded an 8. No wonder I didn't hit that draw.

The table discussion was about what do you do in Crazy Pineapple if you flop 2 good hands, which one do you discard? Example: Your hand: JTT, Flop: QT9.

Pineapple ran from 1:00 - 3:00, then the table broke (a few people were confused by the rules and did't like it). Then I played 3/6 Hold'em for several more hours. It was a fun day, as usual at DP.
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08-23-2010 , 01:20 PM
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Originally Posted by ckmo
Went yesterday for the first time, a regular 10/20 game an hour from my house would definitely get me out there more once I remembered how to play.

Jeffage, were you playing 3/6 limit yesterday at the corner table?
No - I played 2-5 (which was a great game that I got killed in of course), but my friend was in 3-6 and was also on the interest list so that may be who you are thinking of. I did come over to tell him bad beat stories a few times tho. I def would have played 10 or 20 hold em there tho. Ps looooong drive there from dc area.
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08-23-2010 , 04:10 PM
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Originally Posted by daveopie
We had problems with the auto-shuffler marking cards yesterday. We told the floor. He looked at the deck and determined that there were a bunch of cards that were marked (the machine was adding a crease to the cards), so he said we should just play with the deck. And we did.

On one hand, he was kind of right - there were a bunch of cards that were marked so even if you could see the crease in a card in the hand of the player next to you, it wasn't really an advantage.

On the other hand, I really don't like playing with a marked deck.

I guess the alternatives was to swap out that shuffler, which would have taken some time, or moving us to another table, which also would have taken quite some time.



I have spoken to all Floor Supervisors regarding this concern and let me reassure everyone that if a deck is found to have multiple cards defective in it, the whole set-up will be changed immediately.
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08-23-2010 , 05:20 PM
Anthony - thanks for your help!

When you say the "whole setup" will be changed - do you mean a new deck of cards? Because soon after the first incident, the other deck of cards also started to show creases also. It was obviously the shuffler causing this, and really the shuffler needed to be replaced.

I think it may have been table #16, as someone else pointed out. It was the second row from the slots area half wall, about midway through the room.
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08-23-2010 , 06:05 PM
Yes, the setup is the two decks of cards at the table.
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08-23-2010 , 06:39 PM
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Originally Posted by daveopie
Anthony - thanks for your help!

When you say the "whole setup" will be changed - do you mean a new deck of cards? Because soon after the first incident, the other deck of cards also started to show creases also. It was obviously the shuffler causing this, and really the shuffler needed to be replaced.

I think it may have been table #16, as someone else pointed out. It was the second row from the slots area half wall, about midway through the room.
The tables are numbered in a serpentine pattern.

Table #1 is by the cage....

5-4-3-2-1 Cage
6-7-8-9-10
15-14-13-12-11 Desk
16-17-18-19-20
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08-23-2010 , 07:18 PM
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Originally Posted by Jeffage
No - I played 2-5 (which was a great game that I got killed in of course), but my friend was in 3-6 and was also on the interest list so that may be who you are thinking of. I did come over to tell him bad beat stories a few times tho. I def would have played 10 or 20 hold em there tho. Ps looooong drive there from dc area.
Remembered him saying he was on the list for 10/20, figured it might have been you. I was in seat 2 most of the day. Not sure if I could recognize you again but I remember you walking over once or twice. I haven't played much in awhile but I'd be down to play some higher limits there as long as there are a few donors besides myself at the table. Just woke up with enough cash in my wallet to play 3/6 and check the room out , didn't come prepared that day.

95 through Delaware and the tolls always seems screwed up when I'm going through there. I doubt I could take having to drive all the way to DC. Just getting to Baltimore is bad enough.
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08-23-2010 , 08:50 PM
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Originally Posted by ckmo
95 through Delaware and the tolls always seems screwed up when I'm going through there. I doubt I could take having to drive all the way to DC. Just getting to Baltimore is bad enough.
Easy way to avoid Delaware tolls and congestion. I told this to some Baltimore players at my table last week.

If you're coming north from Baltimore, get off at exit 109 (still in Maryland). Take the exit towards Newark, DE. It's the Newark-Elkton Rd. Drive straight and take right on Route 4 (Home Depot/Acme is on left). You'll know you're on the correct road if you quickly pass over railroad tracks and old Chrysler plant. Keep on straight on Route 4 until you see Christiana hospital, Delaware Park is on left.
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08-23-2010 , 09:45 PM
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Originally Posted by umaine89
Easy way to avoid Delaware tolls and congestion. I told this to some Baltimore players at my table last week.

If you're coming north from Baltimore, get off at exit 109 (still in Maryland). Take the exit towards Newark, DE. It's the Newark-Elkton Rd. Drive straight and take right on Route 4 (Home Depot/Acme is on left). You'll know you're on the correct road if you quickly pass over railroad tracks and old Chrysler plant. Keep on straight on Route 4 until you see Christiana hospital, Delaware Park is on left.
Thanks... thinking of coming up tomorrow from Balto
Looking on MapQuest... just to verify

1. "right on Route 4" .. is that route 2 & 4 (Christiana Parkway)? Looks like there's a shopping plaza at the intersection on the left (HD/Acme?)

2. does Route 4 end at Stanton-Christiana Rd (past the hospital), or is S-C road also Route 4

3. is it any longer/shorter than 95 if there's no backup at Del Tpke toll?
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08-23-2010 , 10:42 PM
I'm not a regular B&M player, but in only one experience at DP, I noticed the 1/2 no-limit to be very aggressive. At least 3 players were regularly raising to 20 pre-flop, then betting 40-100 just after the flop, even with just mid-pair. One guy had 3 towers of reds, and was the table bully. Only once did I see one of those towers disappear where he finally lost a bluff to another big stack. I'm guessing that pot was over $800, and and in 1/2 (!). The aggression levels seemed far higher than that of Dover or Harrington.

Wished I would have called a raise to 25 pre-flop with my Kc5c. Board showed K, J, K, 5, K. Again, pot was well over $300 with the winner having J9o

(forgive me for not knowing the proper poker lingo here)
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08-23-2010 , 11:14 PM
Here's a Google map of the 95 North route to DE Park that avoids the MD tolls. If the DE 95 toll is REALLY backed up, you can exit off of 95 earlier and go to US Route 40 and take that in (from Perryville / Havre De Grace)

http://maps.google.com/maps/ms?ie=UT...8e0d4510147119

Here's some of the important traffic cameras that are good in the area. Really, 95 is bad in DE on Friday 4:30pm - 8:00pm and sometimes both directions during weekends.

Locals stay off 95 during these times. I use 95 as much as possible, but not before checking the cameras. Even a 1/2 hour can make the difference between smooth sailing and gridlock.

I-95 and rt 141 (near the 95 / 295 split):
http://www.deldot.gov/public.ejs?com...nnectType=http

I-95 and Route 7 (closest DE park exit):
http://www.deldot.gov/public.ejs?com...nnectType=http

I-95 and rt 273 (second closest exit to DE park, my preferred route to get to the "Paddock Entrance"):
http://www.deldot.gov/public.ejs?com...nnectType=http

For traffic updates, check 1450 AM during the rush hours and for 24/7 updates, tune to 1380 (DelDOT radio)

Longtime 2+2 lurker, here.. Finally joined when I saw this thread. I wish that less people from here (informed, educated players) came to the place, but oh well.. There's enough to go around for all of us

Welcome to Delaware. Many of us never thought we'd see this day in our own backyard. Unreal, to say the least.
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08-24-2010 , 12:06 PM
I've had same problem. Creases caused by the shuffling machine. Every time I see one, I tell the dealer and he calls a floor guy. They replace that card, but keep the rest of the deck. Floor guy looked annoyed, but dealer said I did the right thing and anytime I feel uncomfortable about the condition of the cards to say something.
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08-24-2010 , 12:18 PM
Good Afternoon All,

Update to the tournament schedule:


Mon-Fri 11am $65 Buy-in, 5k in TC

Sat & Sun 12 noon $150 Buy-in, 10k in TC

Sat & Sun 8am-11:30am $45 Satellites 2k in TC 2 winners into the $150 noon

24/7 $45 Sit and Go's
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08-24-2010 , 01:11 PM
are they still charge $30 at the door now or are they charging time at 1/2 poker table. might go up there this weekend if they do the pot rake if not AC for me this weekend
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08-24-2010 , 01:22 PM
What are the structures of the tournaments and SnGs like? Any chance of getting them posted here or on the web site?
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08-24-2010 , 01:47 PM
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Originally Posted by Newark
Here's a Google map of the 95 North route to DE Park that avoids the MD tolls. If the DE 95 toll is REALLY backed up, you can exit off of 95 earlier and go to US Route 40 and take that in (from Perryville / Havre De Grace)

http://maps.google.com/maps/ms?ie=UT...8e0d4510147119

Here's some of the important traffic cameras that are good in the area. Really, 95 is bad in DE on Friday 4:30pm - 8:00pm and sometimes both directions during weekends.

Locals stay off 95 during these times. I use 95 as much as possible, but not before checking the cameras. Even a 1/2 hour can make the difference between smooth sailing and gridlock.

I-95 and rt 141 (near the 95 / 295 split):
http://www.deldot.gov/public.ejs?com...nnectType=http

I-95 and Route 7 (closest DE park exit):
http://www.deldot.gov/public.ejs?com...nnectType=http

I-95 and rt 273 (second closest exit to DE park, my preferred route to get to the "Paddock Entrance"):
http://www.deldot.gov/public.ejs?com...nnectType=http

For traffic updates, check 1450 AM during the rush hours and for 24/7 updates, tune to 1380 (DelDOT radio)

Longtime 2+2 lurker, here.. Finally joined when I saw this thread. I wish that less people from here (informed, educated players) came to the place, but oh well.. There's enough to go around for all of us

Welcome to Delaware. Many of us never thought we'd see this day in our own backyard. Unreal, to say the least.

Appreciate the info... thanks
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08-24-2010 , 01:55 PM
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Originally Posted by Freedom4All
are they still charge $30 at the door now or are they charging time at 1/2 poker table. might go up there this weekend if they do the pot rake if not AC for me this weekend
the delaware poker room run by brandon is not in operation anymore this is the delaware park casino. its regular casino rake structure.

btw its a shame because brandon is a big reason poker has come to delaware he just couldnt compete with del park he did try though. He plays there alot now though.
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08-24-2010 , 01:56 PM
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Originally Posted by Freedom4All
are they still charge $30 at the door now or are they charging time at 1/2 poker table. might go up there this weekend if they do the pot rake if not AC for me this weekend
Feedom4all
You're talking about the Delaware poker room, that's closed up! This site is talking about the Delaware Park casino at the Delaware Park horse race track. It's a professionally run casino poker room just off I-95 before you get to the old poker room. They take a 10% rake with a max of $4 per hand plus $1 for the bad beat Jackpot.
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08-24-2010 , 02:01 PM
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Originally Posted by vettefan
Feedom4all
You're talking about the Delaware poker room, that's closed up! This site is talking about the Delaware Park casino at the Delaware Park horse race track. It's a professionally run casino poker room just off I-95 before you get to the old poker room. They take a 10% rake with a max of $4 per hand plus $1 for the bad beat Jackpot.
thank for the info, will be there this weekend, CT suck. 1/2 poker table they're charging $6 for 1/2 hrs.
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08-24-2010 , 08:18 PM
Just left DP. They seem to be annoucing $45.00 sit n go's regularly and starting them in mulitple's. Pretty good crowd and a lot of people at the morning tourney.

Looking forward to the new room and meant to go look over work and how it looks.... but I forgot.

Action 1/2 table today with only two rocks which is always good.
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08-24-2010 , 08:20 PM
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Originally Posted by Anthony Chester
Good Afternoon All,

Update to the tournament schedule:


Mon-Fri 11am $65 Buy-in, 5k in TC

Sat & Sun 12 noon $150 Buy-in, 10k in TC

Sat & Sun 8am-11:30am $45 Satellites 2k in TC 2 winners into the $150 noon

24/7 $45 Sit and Go's
thanks for the info. Any weekend night tournaments on the agenda? I had heard of a 300.00 buy in. I also heard that the blinds would be 30 minutes on weekends. True?
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