Had the opportunity to play there this past weekend on Saturday afternoon. I am a limit player and have to say the people at my table LOVED to gamble. I only wish I had had more time to spend there as there were several players willing to put a lot into the pot, and they were not doing too well. Luck was not giving me cards worth playing (never made it past the flop) but I imagine you could have a hell of a good time here. I need to get back here SOON.

I talked a lil bit with the floor manager and others and found everyone to be very nice.

Talk going around the floor tonight that some girl in the 5/10 game hit a BBJ. Apparently it took her awhile to eventually table her hand or something, but she did. Once they ran her name, they found that she was in the state self exclusion list. (Problem gamblers) They apparently asked her to leave and confiscated her jackpot and "donated" it to Gamblers Anonymous. Everyone else got paid out though as far I know.

I put donated in quotes because well... we all know the issues with how the BBJ is run. Wouldn't be surprised if the house just ended up keeping the cash. Although who knows, casinos can't fool around with known problem gamblers that have excluded themselves.

How exactly is this self-exclusion supposed to work anyway? They clearly don't check everyone against a list when they come in, or even check IDs of people who obviously look of age. I don't see what the point is.

http://oag.ca.gov/gambling/exclusion_self

Can anyone tell me about players bank?
How safe is it, how long does it take to withdraw/deposit, can I use it from the table to do I have to visit before I sit down?

It's safe. Never had a problem in that respect.

Takes as long as an ordinary bank transaction takes, a couple minutes generally.

You can send a chip runner to make the transaction but I've always just done it myself prior to sitting down.

Nl cash last week, Floor was called on who has to table their hand first , floor says the last aggressor. We made it simple and changed the rules a few months ago.

This week, again the situation came up and floor says, the guy out of position shows first , unless it's an all in pot .

Which is it ? 😳

How is last aggressor making it simple? It's one more.thing for the dealer to keep track of, and Commerce dealers don't need one more thing to track. First to the left of the button (i.e., the guy out of position) is how it has been for years.

I don't know but several players also said they have had floor make that ruling recently.. ( last aggressor)

I actually like last aggressor better. My objection to it is that it will lead to more arguments when two or more people, some of them possibly drunk, can't remember who made the last aggressive action. I don't like things that slow down live poker even more.

Can someone tell me what the new designations on bravo mean?
After 40/80 there is a "1" and after the 1-2 there is a "2"
Thanks

Those designations (i.e. 1, 2, X, etc...) before the game is internal but determines what the rewards is given for that game type. For example, "1" is used for hi limit poker games and players receive 1.5 points per hour played. "2" gets 2 points.

What's the typical buyin for the 10/20 NL games on the weekends and typical preflop raise sizes and what not. Been meaning to walk over there take a look at a few of the tables but can't hurt just asking here as well.

if the dealer can't keep track of this they shouldn't have a job.
you might as well saying remembering not to eat the cards is difficult.

out of position, while common on the west coast is such an awful rule.

It is common on the east coast, too. Just not in some of the biggest rooms (read: borgata).

Play for a couple weeks at Commerce and you'll understand why I think this is so funny.

We can add to the list:
if you don't know what size bet reopens action, you shouldn't have a job;
if you can't correctly construct a side pot, you shouldn't have a job;
if you can't read the board and award the pot to the correct person, you shouldn't have a job.

The best dealers at Commerce are awesome. But far too many of them are awful, so, yeah, keeping track of who the last aggressor was is too much for them to handle. Disputes slow down the game. Live poker is slow enough as it is.

Agreed, but beside the point. See above.

Also, the TDA rules specify out of position for tournaments, so it's not like it is completely crazy. Maybe you're just used to it being done the other way.

Re the topic of the dealers. Maybe the players get the quality they deserve. I spend time at Bellagio, Foxwoods, and Commerce. Commerce stands alone in dealer abuse. I have heard dealers called every name under the sun, simply due to the cards that are dealt. As if the dealers are singling them out. Foul, sexist language, card throwing and so on.

I would never want anyone I know to be a dealer there. And Management stands by and does nothing. I am amazed that anyone puts up with this crap. I play 20/40 Holdem and Stud, and 30/60 Stud. Not sure if this problem exists in other limits or games. But in those games it is truly horrible.

fair point about the commerce. the behavior there is by far the worst i've seen in any poker room.

The problem is, not all players are like this. There are certain problem players in each game at each limit. The floor staff know who they are because they do they same **** day in day out. As you say, management lets them get away with murder, maybe for fear that they will go to the Bike or Hawaiian Gardens.

That all does not excuse dealers for not having basic things under control that should be Dealer School 101.

management lets them get away with anything they want because they're a bunch of shady incompetent turds who would shove their mother into traffic for a 5 dollar tip

you have a good memory for your own posts!

Any pro-tips for a first time Commerce visit?

This Friday (2/6/2015) I'm ending a work trip in LA and will be booking a Friday night at Commerce.

I've ready back ~100 posts from here for basic info, ideas, blah blah blah ... Will be looking to play mid-limit NL games.

valet the car

Are the prices they have posted just a "suggested tip"? I never understood that. I always tip the guy 5 bucks and got treated like royalty. I miss the old guy who use to work the back valet up until a year ago, the new russian people running the show are terrible.

I played in a 5/10 game the other week and the dealer made errors on three consecutive hands. Dealing the river with action still pending and misreading the board twice.

I dabbled with Omaha8 two years ago and played 4/8 just to get a feel for the game. Let's just say, I saw the worst of the worst there. People telling the dealer to kill themselves, find a new job, the absolute scum of society. (These people were also playing hands like KKK2 in O8)

I also noticed the other week that the dealers never announce how many players are going to a flop. Guess I got spoiled by Bellagio dealers over the years.