Quick question. Got an email about Borgata's 15k guarantees ($100+20) that runs on Wed and the 30k guarantee ($200+30) on Fridays. Does anyone know the details about each tourney roughly like how many runners usually, first place prize and length of tourney etc..? Was just curious about these things, thanks for the help much appreciated

its obvious? how so?

No this was a limit game. The player with the higher straight flush had never played casino poker before. On the river she wanted to raise but was not aware of string betting,and the dealer explained it to her. She said "ok I have a straight flush" The 4s 3s said "so do I". Then they turned over their hands and the dealer said bad beat. Then hell broke loose.

I had one but it had nothing to do with the poker room. Some non floor or security employee (he was cleaning a table outside of B Bar) gave me a huge diatribe about my ID then went over and talked to the security (who had just let me into the bar...). It was hilarious cause they literally just rolled their eyes and laughed when the guy walked away. But in my many times going that was the only complaint I can give. Floor/Dealers/Security have almost all been great to me.

A lot of people complain about the drink time in the room. It can get bad at times. I don't know why so many guys whine though. It is what it is. It kinda sucks but there's a lot of people in there and I imagine the waitress's are going as fast as possible.

I can't fathom this.
If you booked your room online, you would have a printout with your correct check-in date and a confirmation number.
Are you saying that didn't match what the front desk had on their computer?

Maybe he booked over the phone?

People still use phones for reservations?

Actually I came into this thread to ask the exact same question. Coming down in the middle of march, staying at a harrahs property like I usually do (comp rooms), but was thinking about checking out the Borg for the first time on the way out of town wednesday (staying mon and tues nights), and hitting the 11am 15k guarantee. Was just wondering about the same details. Help would be appreciated

The Borgata guaranteed tourneys are highly popular with an average of about 300-350 players on Wed. mornings, for example, sometimes higher. First place prize money is, of course, determined by the amount of entrants. So, a tourney with 300 runners ($30,000 prize pool) will have a first place prize in the area of $6,000-$8,000.
Most regular daily tourneys are completed in 5-7 hours, but the big turnouts for the guaranteed tourneys extend that to about 8-10 hours if it plays to completion without a chop.

Thanks Elliot. I read the 2 first and my mind went immediately to 2/5 not 2/4. If you don't mind explaning generally, how do they handle the bad beat hit like that. Do they shut down the table, and bring the table players into a lounge/back room to review tape/settle up the winnings, or do they just do that right at the table. I would have to imagine there is at least some admin/checking that has to be done, and that the room itself just goes crazy.

I might be wrong, but it seems the players just hang around the table for around an hour while tapes are checked and IDs/payouts (typically cash) are handled. I've heard people complain about the wait, but I guess they're billionaires making more than $10,000/hour.

Some people from around the room come over to check out what's going on for curiosity's sake - but the room hardly goes crazy. A few newbies ask questions at their table about how it get hit and everyone else is like "eh, why couldn't it have been here" in their head and gets back to their game.

I almost hit a table share last week. Aces full v. quad 4s on flop and all the aces were live with two cards to come. Crap. What is that? Like 5%?

My room was booked for March 18th when I reserved it for Feb 18th. And yes the room was booked over the phone.

I think I'm also trying to go in March (St. Patty's day would be ideal) Let me know if your going down around then so atleast I could meet up/play poker with another person (my friends are the ballers that play the penny slots lol)

How hard is it to place in the money in the guaranteed games? Do these games fill with regular rocks every week?

Obviously it would not have hit had the player with the losing hand been wearing a different shirt that day...

The bad beat would have an equal chance of occurring, with or without this player at the table; it could have hit another way with two different hands.
Therefore there is no reason to give anything to the player who was absent.

By the way, who was the dealer?

I have a weekday comp room offer from Borgata, but I can only book over the phone....it won't let me book for this offer online.

I support giving something to the absent player. It's altruism like that that makes going to the bathroom a non-nerveracking experience. And I get what you're saying about chaos theory, but once the cards are out of the deckmate machine and cut, the BBJP absolutely (1/largenumber vs 1/1) would not have come if the lobbying player had been there. He certainly deserves maybe 1% if the dealer is going to get 3%.

Alan was the dealer last night on the BBJP -- excellent dealer. He even kicked in $100 of his tip to the lobbying player. Classy!

By the way, elliot is right on what happened at the table. I can't believe I saw a BBJP straight flush over straight flush with a bet and a flat call on the river (due to string bet) -- haha

Edit -- Another funny thing is that 2 hours later when they all got their prizes paid, most of them stuck around and continued to play 2-4. haha.

Thanks statistics guy.. but it would MORE than likely (LOADS MORE) not have hit if the guy was at the table for the hands before and during the bad beat hand

they are far from rocks who play in the daily tourneys, although you do come across decent players now and then.

Is Alan is the tall, skinny African-American dealer? If so, he is a very good dealer, well deserved.

Takes up an hour upstairs for them to review the tapes, then the floor comes n inspects every single card in the deck to ensure none are missing, meanwhile all players just wait around for the confirmation, once pot finally gets pushed over to the winner of the pot, it's official, then another 10-15 minutes for them to come down with the paperwork for all players on the table, one of my better experiences from the wonderful borgata

Yeah they are busy and polite. I usually get a coffee and a water so I usually can wait.

Suggestion:
After flying 2,500 miles to San Fran years ago WITH a hotel confirmation number, the hotel had no record of me or my confirmation number (they had a recent computer crash).
Flew to Sarasota, FL - hotel had right name, right confirmation number, right check-in and check-out dates BUT the price was double what we agreed to over the phone.
Now, whether I book online OR by phone, I insist on receiving an e-mail confirming the reservation number, the dates and rates and I religiously bring the printout with me at check-in. So, even if their computer crashes, I have a hard-copy confirmation sent by them which they won't reject.
Good luck.

Originally Posted by mojojo16
My room was booked for March 18th when I reserved it for Feb 18th. And yes the room was booked over the phone.

I made mojojo16's reservation. Yes the wrong month was put on his reservation. I personally corrected it. The funny thing is that it was his first time to the Borgata and i wanted to help him out with a poker rate. Glad i could help you.

Stan

Well, like most live tourneys, roughly the top 10% are paid. If you're an average player, you will cash one out of every 10 times you enter. If you're a better-than-average player, you will cash maybe 15-18% of the time. But if you enjoy tournaments, you have to be prepared to walk away with nothing 80-90% of the time. That's just the nature of the game.
Regular rocks? I'm a semi-regular at Borgata and it's really a mix of regulars and first-time players drawn by the guarantee. That guarantee has always been a true marketing success.
In the summer months, the guarantee is really a joke because they draw at least 150 players MINIMUM ($15,000 prize pool) on non-guarantee days.