The overall staffing shortage had a direct impact on the game I was playing during primetime on Saturday night. Fills have been taking forever and this weekend was no exception. The game was WILD, chips were flying, all the good things. Lots of people getting felted and buying chips - fill button eventually went up. Everything continued and the rack was the closest to empty that I've ever seen. Another guy got felted and wanted to rebuy, the dealer asked the big stack (who was the main attraction of the game) if he could sell him chips and would take care of it when the fill came, big stack obliged - I'm sure you can see where this is going. That dealer gets pushed. Then a big pot comes up and the big stack shoves, the dealer immediately informs him that the cash doesn't play. He gets irate, floor is called, big stack is way too loud to effectively communicate what's going on, just kept telling the floor the cash 100% plays and you don't know what you're talking about. It's never made clear why the cash was there in the first place (not sure it would have mattered). Also comical bc the big stack had the other player covered even without the cash so this literally did not matter, but we were beyond reason at this point. Big stack wins the hand but is fuming and immediately grabs racks - amazing game over.

This is not bad etiquette. Taking a minute to think about said pot is comical. A minute is a long time in a cash game I feel. These decisions aren’t super complex generally.

Cash or money"behind" doesn't play here. yes, fills take hours, and the dealer who authorized this was totally out of line. The player needed to go to the cage unless someone had chips in their pockets they were willing to sell. Obviously if I was at the table this wouldn't of happened, but I'm surprised no one else spoke up saying cash doesn't play.

I was playing one morning and the floor actually approved cash plays due to this same situation

As much as I want you to be right about NYC, there is hardly anything set in stone that will automatically bring casino poker to NYC in 2023. Places can apply for licenses, but that doesn't mean that they'll be granted or that they'll be able to expand in 2023. I'm hopeful, but government is slow, and a lot can happen between then and now. Namely Cuomo not getting re-elected

Isn't it a CCC rule?

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Just wanted to share my new offers. I haven't played at Borgata for almost 2 years and I left about $15 express comps unused. In that time I had no comp offers from Borgata. I only play 1-2 nl averaging about 7 hours a night a few times a year, and a hand full of roulette spins.

In early June I logged in and have a bunch of 3 night comp offers for various Las Vegas casinos, so I booked a week long trip, and paid an additional 2 nights for like $40 each night. I played about 5 hours at MGM and another night at Bellagio. The floor had trouble logging people in at the 1/2 nl so had to manually swipe u in . I played about 7 hours there at 1-2 but when i told the floor guy to log me out he said he would leave me in for a bit longer lol, thanks guy. I also won a few hundred on slots but only put $40 in without using my card. not sure if they were able to track that when i cashed out.

Anyway, my tier credits jumped up by about 10k on that trip, which posted a few days later. I kept logging in and out like almost everyday to my borgata account but no offers. Now, about a month on borgata has given me a bunch of match plays $50 each and some bonus express comps $25 each and the comedy tickets. no free rooms tho. Vegas comps are still the same. I hope to put in 1 huge session, maybe at 2/5 to open up the rooms again. I'd be really happy with 2 weekdays in a row.

Seem like vegas is where the value is now..

I just noticed today my express comps reflects my last days play and I didn't hand in my card. I wonder if it was just random or if they finally figured out a system to do it?

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What’s CCC?
And this morning it happened everyone at the table was cool with it and even when they switched dealers we explained the situation to them and it wasn’t a problem

Casino control commission I thought cash doesn't play in Atlantic City state wide

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Well, if the dealer's aware from the push, it's a totally different situation. Still maybe not totally kosher, but worlds apart from a player saying "oh, btw, my cash is in play" to a dealer who knows nothing of it. In the latter case, if it's allowed, another player makes an issue of it and the floor is called, the dealer probably gets in trouble. Because the rules clearly say no.

Cash only plays on fixed limit tables.

I doubt it’s a CCC rule, I think it is a policy decision Borgata made early on that Cash wouldn’t play in anything but limit poker games (so people don’t angle with cash and you can get a clearer view of someone’s stack). But yea in 20/40 or whatever people betting with hundreds is very common (they are immediately converted to chips).

I don't think it's a CCC rule either because I have a faint memory of cash playing in the high stakes room back in the day, but they put an end to it years ago when they busted the sports betting ring.

I am surprised to hear it is allowed anywhere. My understanding is that FinCEN and related government agencies have leaned heavily on casinos nationwide to eliminate cash from being usable without conversion to chips, in order to better monitor for money laundering and other counter-terrorism goals.

I admit I have only played at Borgata a few times 1-2 years ago, in the high limit room, but I do not recall cash playing at any of my tables while I was there.

If it does play, I imagine it only plays temporarily until it can be converted to chips by the next available chip runner or fill.

It plays bc the cage is never open

1) Again, if the clock was *called* at the minute mark then the player only got a minute before the floor coming over and then having to rush a major decision. Most reasonable poker players would find that a short amount of time and most reasonable players would be patient (to a certain limit).

2) Even if it was 2+ minutes, just saying it's plenty of time without context is a little short-sighted IMO. $200 on the line vs 5K makes a difference and would warrant more time to go over combos a villain might have. Winning and making good decisions is fun...not playing faster.

And that's your personal opinion, which is fine. If you can figure out all the possible hands combinations, pot odds and outs you may need to win within a minute with a big pot & calling an all-in that virtually puts you all-in...cool. But just because one player is impatient is not a reason to rush a decision IMO (again, within a reasonable amount of time based on what's at risk) just because said player wants to have "fun".

Copy, and it was a one time slow morning thing, floor approved it for that particular time because the cashier was closed and a fill wasn’t coming anytime soon.

Yes exactly, on Monday I was there at 12:30pm and the cage was still closed, ain’t open til 2pm

The problem is if cash isn't authorized to play under the CCC, it doesn't matter if the cage is closed or not. They could get a huge fine.

A smart supervisor would have sent the guy to a neighboring table that had chips instead of risking a fine or other disciplinary actions by state gaming (again, if the state's rule is cash doesn't play which I thought was the case).

Yea I have no clue on the law, if no one else at the Table cares neither do I. Especially if there’s a table limit or minimum. I’m not a stickler for it, just pointing out something I noticed

There doesn't appear to be anything in the poker section of the regs about whether or not cash may play, just that cash wagered must be "expeditiously" changed to chips. (As in limit, where cash is immediately changed and doesn't go into the pot.)

Was playing 20/40 one morning with 20 and 100 dollar bills because the cage was closed and no chips in the rack. Another problem is you can't buy chips at the main cage, you can only cash out. We would buy chips off another if someone got low too. But there were times when cash went in the pot and the bills got marked off by the dealer.

Just returned, overall not impressed.

Buddy and I each got a comp night through the MyVegas apps.
I had to call to book and conferenced him in so he could book the 2nd night.
Phone person said they were linked and we were good. We ran into a few hiccups, but we did stay in the same room for 2 nights (had to get new keys for the 2nd night).

Poker cashier being closed is a HUGE pain in the ass.

I did buy chips at table A to use at table B when 1st seated today. table A had very little chips in the rack and the floor approved it quickly. I'm a little surprised the floor didn't become a temp chip runner to get chips from another table in the other scenario.

I've seen players sitting in a 'paused' game, where multiple people decided to take a bathroom break together, and the 2 players seated didn't want to play heads up. Dealer looked deflated, and I'm quite certain the walkers didn't tip him on return for the hands that he didn't get to deal and get tipped on.

Lots of games breaking and moving during the late afternoon. Very weird.

Good to see most of the usual dealers and staff.

Haven't figured out the comp transfer from poker, but I did have enough express comps to use for the trip.

There are still some USB chargers on some of the tables. Bummed that it's not standard after the time off, they clearly did a lot of work, that couldn't have been too much more. Wonder if it's a way to keep people off devices?

Really liked American Bar and Grille for dinner. Better food and service than we've had at Wolfgang's.