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06-04-2020 , 09:08 PM
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Originally Posted by persianpunisher
Googled "shamdemic" just for fun. Almost no one is referring to it as that.
Scamdemic is what I see.
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06-04-2020 , 09:11 PM
Any word if the State Championship will run in August?

Maybe?

Firm "no"?
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06-04-2020 , 11:32 PM
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Originally Posted by pig4bill
Any word if the State Championship will run in August?

Maybe?

Firm "no"?
They're saying all June tournaments are cancelled. To me that implies the jury is still out for July and August. Presumably they're waiting to see what the Arizona state authorities are recommending and gaming commission allows.
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06-04-2020 , 11:45 PM
Played today in the $3-$300 game. 7 handed with the plexiglass and wearing the required masks. You can take the mask off to sip on your drink but food is not allowed to be eaten in the room. A staff member has to clean the seat and table edge with a sani-wipe before a new player can sit down. The poker chips are not cleaned. The felt in front of the player is not cleaned. I didn't notice the cards being changed often (if ever). The plexi glass in front of you is not wiped. The CDC has a week or 2 old announcement out that the virus does not spread on surfaces. Yet some but not all of the surfaces are cleaned regularly. All of these procedures are a tub of hogwash. Also you can get your food at one of the various restaurants and of course you can take your mask off to eat. At some point logic will have to prevail over emotion on these issues.

I mean I'm grateful poker is back, but definitely ready for these inconveniences to stop.
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06-05-2020 , 12:31 AM
I think the plexi glass is a bit much at the table. Most people going to the casino to play poker don't care that much about the virus, and the plexi glass is pretty prohibitive. If anything there should just be something around the dealer. I do think the masks are reasonable though. If COVID hospitalizations don't go up in the next few weeks, then we'll see further relaxing of rules. Just have to be patient and wait on Ducey's and/or the tribe's guidance.
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06-05-2020 , 10:41 AM
4 handed with no plexiglass is favorable to 7 handed with it, in my opinion. It feels like you are actually playing poker with people and not trapped inside a glass prison.
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06-05-2020 , 11:25 AM
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Originally Posted by persianpunisher
I think the plexi glass is a bit much at the table. Most people going to the casino to play poker don't care that much about the virus, and the plexi glass is pretty prohibitive. If anything there should just be something around the dealer. I do think the masks are reasonable though. If COVID hospitalizations don't go up in the next few weeks, then we'll see further relaxing of rules. Just have to be patient and wait on Ducey's and/or the tribe's guidance.
Neither Ducey nor the State of Arizona is requiring the wearing of masks in public places. That is solely on the Casino.
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06-05-2020 , 01:02 PM
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Originally Posted by Win2014WSOP
Played today in the $3-$300 game. 7 handed with the plexiglass and wearing the required masks. You can take the mask off to sip on your drink but food is not allowed to be eaten in the room. A staff member has to clean the seat and table edge with a sani-wipe before a new player can sit down. The poker chips are not cleaned. The felt in front of the player is not cleaned. I didn't notice the cards being changed often (if ever). The plexi glass in front of you is not wiped. The CDC has a week or 2 old announcement out that the virus does not spread on surfaces. Yet some but not all of the surfaces are cleaned regularly. All of these procedures are a tub of hogwash. Also you can get your food at one of the various restaurants and of course you can take your mask off to eat. At some point logic will have to prevail over emotion on these issues.

I mean I'm grateful poker is back, but definitely ready for these inconveniences to stop.
The CDC said "It's not easily spread" on surfaces. If it is there and you touch it and then touch your face you can be infected.
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06-05-2020 , 01:04 PM
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Originally Posted by persianpunisher
I think the plexi glass is a bit much at the table. Most people going to the casino to play poker don't care that much about the virus, and the plexi glass is pretty prohibitive. If anything there should just be something around the dealer. I do think the masks are reasonable though. If COVID hospitalizations don't go up in the next few weeks, then we'll see further relaxing of rules. Just have to be patient and wait on Ducey's and/or the tribe's guidance.
If most people going to the casino don't care about the virus then it's a good argument for all of the safety requirements.
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06-05-2020 , 01:07 PM
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Originally Posted by CrazyLond
4 handed with no plexiglass is favorable to 7 handed with it, in my opinion. It feels like you are actually playing poker with people and not trapped inside a glass prison.
How often does the 4 handed game remain 4 handed? Is there a rule for walkers? Does it end op heads up often or is there usually a list?
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06-05-2020 , 01:35 PM
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Originally Posted by mongidig
If most people going to the casino don't care about the virus then it's a good argument for all of the safety requirements.
No, it's not really. Not everything in life is all or nothing. The casino still has to worry about their employees, general public perception, and keeping their very much at risk patrons from dying (Even if those guests don't care about getting infected themselves). Plus it's not just a casino. If they want hotel, banquet, and entertainment business in the future they have to at least act like they care.
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06-05-2020 , 02:02 PM
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Originally Posted by pig4bill
Any word if the State Championship will run in August?

Maybe?

Firm "no"?
Way too early for that call. They need to see if we can have a functioning poker room.

That being said, live donkament with 4 handed tables sounds very interesting.
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06-05-2020 , 02:28 PM
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Originally Posted by persianpunisher
No, it's not really. Not everything in life is all or nothing. The casino still has to worry about their employees, general public perception, and keeping their very much at risk patrons from dying (Even if those guests don't care about getting infected themselves). Plus it's not just a casino. If they want hotel, banquet, and entertainment business in the future they have to at least act like they care.
Ok then most of the safety measures are needed. I think the people who aren't taking this seriously are more likely to have it and spread it.

I don't think the safety measures will be lifted until there is a significant downward trend in cases.
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06-05-2020 , 09:25 PM
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Originally Posted by mongidig
How often does the 4 handed game remain 4 handed? Is there a rule for walkers? Does it end op heads up often or is there usually a list?
I have only played the 4 handed twice and the first time it was mostly heads up waiting to get into main 7 handed game. Last night I played a few hours and it was full most the time, occasionally 1 person would walk for a few minutes. There was a solid list and a must move eventually formed with still a few more on the list. I don't know what the rule is regarding walkers.
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06-05-2020 , 09:31 PM
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Originally Posted by that_pope
They started 7 handed again yesterday.



Can somebody provide scientific evidence that 4 handed tables are less dangerous bthan 9 handed tables?
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06-06-2020 , 12:03 AM
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Originally Posted by stumbras

Can somebody provide scientific evidence that 4 handed tables are less dangerous bthan 9 handed tables?
Go complain to the Salt River Tribal council.
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06-06-2020 , 01:58 AM
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Originally Posted by CrazyLond
I have only played the 4 handed twice and the first time it was mostly heads up waiting to get into main 7 handed game. Last night I played a few hours and it was full most the time, occasionally 1 person would walk for a few minutes. There was a solid list and a must move eventually formed with still a few more on the list. I don't know what the rule is regarding walkers.
Thanks for the info!
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06-08-2020 , 06:24 PM
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Originally Posted by stumbras

Can somebody provide scientific evidence that 4 handed tables are less dangerous bthan 9 handed tables?
Well since masks and social distancing aren't required with all the protests no reason casino can't go back to 9 handed. Also, WHO just came out today and said people who have the virus but are asymptomatic don't spread the disease. A total 180 degree turn for them. Let's play some real poker.
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06-08-2020 , 09:07 PM
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Originally Posted by Fredo58
Well since masks and social distancing aren't required with all the protests no reason casino can't go back to 9 handed. Also, WHO just came out today and said people who have the virus but are asymptomatic don't spread the disease. A total 180 degree turn for them. Let's play some real poker.
Perfect timing for the states biggest spike in cases, hospitalizations, deaths etc.
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06-08-2020 , 09:46 PM
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Originally Posted by stumbras

Can somebody provide scientific evidence that 4 handed tables are less dangerous bthan 9 handed tables?
Yes that can be scientifically be proven 4 is safer than 9. But precisely how much safer is a different question. 4 might be a tiny bit safer or much safer. That differentiation is much more difficult to prove scientifically.
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06-08-2020 , 11:19 PM
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Originally Posted by mongidig
Perfect timing for the states biggest spike in cases, hospitalizations, deaths etc.
Good thing you're not out here in Arizona.
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06-09-2020 , 02:51 AM
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Originally Posted by Fredo58
Also, WHO just came out today and said people who have the virus but are asymptomatic don't spread the disease. A total 180 degree turn for them.
This is false.

What was being reported today was one misconstrued comment from one person during a live interview -- and that person has subsequently tried to clarify what she meant by her answer. What she was asked about was people who were *completely* asymptomatic -- including even trivial symptoms, like a minor fever or a headache. And again, this was one person off-the-cuff during a live interview, not an official position of the WHO as an organization. But don't take my word for it, please follow up and fact-check this for yourself, because this is important. AZ's numbers are skyrocketing right now, and that is exactly the kind of thing that turns what should have been a safe and careful reopening into a complete nightmare.

q/q
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06-09-2020 , 02:48 PM
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Originally Posted by Fredo58
Well since masks and social distancing aren't required with all the protests no reason casino can't go back to 9 handed. Also, WHO just came out today and said people who have the virus but are asymptomatic don't spread the disease. A total 180 degree turn for them. Let's play some real poker.
Wear a hat that says POKER HANDS MATTER. You're not playing poker, you're protesting.
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06-09-2020 , 03:24 PM
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Originally Posted by pig4bill
Wear a hat that says POKER HANDS MATTER. You're not playing poker, you're protesting.
I'm with you on that. LOL
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06-09-2020 , 09:09 PM
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Originally Posted by QuadsOverQuads
This is false.

What was being reported today was one misconstrued comment from one person during a live interview -- and that person has subsequently tried to clarify what she meant by her answer. What she was asked about was people who were *completely* asymptomatic -- including even trivial symptoms, like a minor fever or a headache. And again, this was one person off-the-cuff during a live interview, not an official position of the WHO as an organization. But don't take my word for it, please follow up and fact-check this for yourself, because this is important. AZ's numbers are skyrocketing right now, and that is exactly the kind of thing that turns what should have been a safe and careful reopening into a complete nightmare.

q/q
Fact check completed. Go to 1:20 mark. Enjoy your day.
https://youtu.be/NQTBlbx1Xjs
I just saw a local news broadcast saying the W.H.O. person that made those statements has walked it back. Tune in tomorrow for more conflicting info from "experts" We are still all going to die, apparently.

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