openshuving wide - Claydol style. - Page 2 - MTTSNG -- Two Plus Two Poker Forums

Two Plus Two Forums Archived Forums Strategy MTTSNG

openshuving wide - Claydol style.

...

Page 2 of 2

1 2

Page 2 of 2

1 2

12-29-2011 , 05:22 PM

#26

rickyt88

adept

Join Date: Jan 2010 Posts: 841

I can only see it being reasonable if the effective stacks are 20BB even then iuno.

Last edited by rickyt88; 12-29-2011 at 05:45 PM.

12-29-2011 , 06:41 PM

#27

Name Changed

banned

Join Date: May 2010 Posts: 2,074

Quote:

Originally Posted by mckrogh

Dont make excuses for urself when u make a bad play. Learn from it. It is ******ed to shove it.

such an amusing post. i usually love it when u post dumb **** (:

12-29-2011 , 06:56 PM

#28

mckrogh

Carpal \'Tunnel

Join Date: Jan 2009 Posts: 6,495

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ssick_one

such an amusing post. i usually love it when u post dumb **** (:

i mean it in a good way

Learning from our failure makes us improve. We all make mistakes. But those who learn from them is the ones that gets better imo.

Sometimes we learn best we getting things straight :-)

Sorry if it came out harsh.

Last edited by mckrogh; 12-29-2011 at 07:09 PM.

12-29-2011 , 07:54 PM

#29

ste_mc_efc

journeyman

Join Date: Oct 2010 Posts: 340

Quote:

Originally Posted by Syker12

Open shoving is terrible.
Open folding is criminal.

So do something in between

6x folding ftw!

12-30-2011 , 01:35 AM

#30

martin_malin

veteran

Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 3,332

Quote:

Originally Posted by Syker12

Open shoving is terrible.
Open folding is criminal.

So do something in between

I don't think open folding is criminal but open shoving is surely terrible.

12-30-2011 , 04:42 AM

#31

arrtvandelay

banned

Join Date: Nov 2010 Posts: 437

I will always make the case for open folding this hand unless table is tight or at least loose passive. I think raising this is clearly -ev since you can't call most reshoves, position is poor and unless you're a post-flop monster playing the KJo maybe OOP can be -ev over time. So yeah, not criminal really, depends on the table and your own style etc.

12-30-2011 , 05:03 AM

#32

pkratitsbest

veteran

Join Date: May 2011 Posts: 3,035

its like the max silver's 25bb UTG+1 shove with KQo in a UKIPT FT. ya its prolly super marginally +cEV, but -EV.

12-30-2011 , 03:28 PM

#33

SmileyFaces

enthusiast

Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 70

shove is a bit spew, i would 2.2x call MP2 and maybe SB/CO depending on hem stats.

12-30-2011 , 11:11 PM

#34

mysticpig

centurion

Join Date: Apr 2010 Posts: 159

This is fine IF...

you are 30+ tabling.

You do it with everyhand you would raise with, i.e. you only ever shove or fold. then people cant range you etc.

in general terribad, learn to play, espec in 3r which r goldmines.

12-31-2011 , 06:50 AM

#35

Name Changed

banned

Join Date: May 2010 Posts: 2,074

still amusing how ppl try to tell me i should l2p

. love it.

12-31-2011 , 06:53 AM

#36

arrtvandelay

banned

Join Date: Nov 2010 Posts: 437

DONKEY GO PLAY BINGO

12-31-2011 , 08:13 AM

#37

Name Changed

banned

Join Date: May 2010 Posts: 2,074

Quote:

Originally Posted by arrtvandelay

DONKEY GO PLAY BINGO

12-31-2011 , 09:13 AM

#38

mckrogh

Carpal \'Tunnel

Join Date: Jan 2009 Posts: 6,495

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ssick_one

still amusing how ppl try to tell me i should l2p.

l2p?

12-31-2011 , 11:21 AM

#39

Name Changed

banned

Join Date: May 2010 Posts: 2,074

Quote:

Originally Posted by mckrogh

l2p?

funny. oh wait...

l2fo. Guess what it means.

01-01-2012 , 09:51 AM

#40

mckrogh

Carpal \'Tunnel

Join Date: Jan 2009 Posts: 6,495

Im confused

01-01-2012 , 05:54 PM

#41

moneybag09

adept

Join Date: Apr 2009 Posts: 1,121

You need about 15 bigs to jam this hand, with ur stack I don't mind I min/fold ( calling off any shortiez) I'd fold muck hand usualy

01-02-2012 , 05:30 PM

#42

carebearington

enthusiast

Join Date: Dec 2011 Posts: 84

If you're serious about this I think I'd rather be a bit deeper myself but meh, not terrible like some are saying, since you clearly stated you were looking to gamble more and try to swing to a big stack and I assume while picking off the short stacks that will be shoving here. Interesting.

Page 2 of 2

First

1 2

Last

...

Page 2 of 2

First

1 2

Last