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09-14-2011 , 01:52 PM

Jaseee

grinder

Join Date: Feb 2010 Posts: 505

So I am new to the 180s, Early in the tourney, I get AK hooray, I flop TPTK, Okay this is good, but due to my lack of knowledge, I expect a fold to my cbet! but no he flats, than leads out, on the turn, now what do I think here, perhaps he got A9?? surely he dint have 8T or 48, he leads out for just one third of the pot how do I interpret this. Do I flat call and hope for a check on the river, do I shove over the top, or just let go of the hand, I know for a fact I played this wrong, All thoughts would be great thanks!

Poker Stars, $2.28 Buy-in (25/50 blinds) No Limit Hold'em Tournament, 9 Players
Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #10575532

Hero (MP1): 1,470 (29.4 bb)
MP2: 1,596 (31.9 bb)
MP3: 1,652 (33 bb)
CO: 1,905 (38.1 bb)
BTN: 1,215 (24.3 bb)
SB: 1,297 (25.9 bb)
BB: 1,452 (29 bb)
UTG+1: 1,715 (34.3 bb)
UTG+2: 2,658 (53.2 bb)

Preflop: Hero is MP1 with A

2 folds, Hero raises to 150, 5 folds, BB calls 100

Flop: (325) A

(2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets 165, BB calls 165

Turn: (655) 9

(2 players)
BB bets 200, Hero calls 200

River: (1,055) 5

(2 players)
BB bets 450, Hero calls 450

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09-14-2011 , 02:04 PM

sportymat

journeyman

Join Date: Mar 2011 Posts: 333

Doesn't mean he has to be strong fish do this all the time. Would be more concerned if he check raised. I would shove the turn and find weaker aces a lot.

09-14-2011 , 04:16 PM

Jaseee

grinder

Join Date: Feb 2010 Posts: 505

Cheers for the advice, so a shove on the turn for optimal play

09-14-2011 , 04:55 PM

Jaseee

grinder

Join Date: Feb 2010 Posts: 505

Also another hand, These are early in the tourney with no info on the villian

Poker Stars, $2.28 Buy-in (10/20 blinds) No Limit Hold'em Tournament, 8 Players
Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #10577892

MP1: 1,260 (63 bb)
Hero (MP2): 3,010 (150.5 bb)
MP3: 1,450 (72.5 bb)
CO: 1,470 (73.5 bb)
BTN: 1,560 (78 bb)
SB: 1,480 (74 bb)
BB: 1,500 (75 bb)
UTG+2: 1,770 (88.5 bb)

Preflop: Hero is MP2 with J

UTG+2 folds, MP1 calls 20, Hero raises to 80, 2 folds, BTN calls 80, SB calls 70, BB calls 60, MP1 calls 60

Flop: (400) 4

(5 players)
SB checks, BB checks, MP1 checks, Hero bets 280, 3 folds, MP1 calls 280

Turn: (960) K

(2 players)
MP1 checks, Hero bets 460, MP1 raises to 900 and is all-in, Hero calls 440

River: (2,760) 9

(2 players, 1 is all-in)

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09-14-2011 , 05:11 PM

martin_malin

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Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 3,332

AK: shove turn
JJ: iso to 100-120, nh after that

09-14-2011 , 05:15 PM

TILT_box1337

journeyman

Join Date: Jan 2011 Posts: 230

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jaseee

2 folds, Hero raises to 150, 5 folds, BB calls 100

Flop: (325) A

(2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets 165, BB calls 165

Turn: (655) 9

(2 players)
BB bets 200, Hero calls 200

River: (1,055) 5

(2 players)
BB bets 450, Hero calls 450

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Hi, Jaseee!

Yeah, preflop is std.,

on flop - bet bigger ~250 (roughly 3/4 pot)

turn - get it in! you are allowing him to get cheap to the river in case he has some SD or FD

GL!

09-14-2011 , 05:22 PM

TILT_box1337

journeyman

Join Date: Jan 2011 Posts: 230

Hand #2

Preflop, yeah, as martin decided - iso to 100-120.

Flop is fine

Turn - I'd like to shove here, since he has pot size stack left.

09-14-2011 , 05:43 PM

Jaseee

grinder

Join Date: Feb 2010 Posts: 505

cheers, I appreciate all the help, Also another hand, *I dont think they will ever stop*
So my thoughts btn a new player only 5 hands, SB is 9/9 over 55hands, so I was hoping for a fold from him, BB is only 5BB deep so I was expecting to get called with a weaker hand, or 40/60. Is this the correct play?

Poker Stars, $2.28 Buy-in (200/400 blinds, 50 ante) No Limit Hold'em Tournament, 8 Players
Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #10578062

MP3: 4,834 (12.1 bb)
Hero (CO): 3,846 (9.6 bb)
BTN: 3,856 (9.6 bb)
SB: 7,985 (20 bb)
BB: 2,018 (5 bb)
UTG+2: 5,290 (13.2 bb)
MP1: 9,664 (24.2 bb)
MP2: 10,579 (26.4 bb)

Preflop: Hero is CO with 3

4 folds, Hero raises to 3,796 and is all-in, BTN folds, SB raises to 7,935 and is all-in, BB folds

Flop: (8,392) 6

(2 players, 2 are all-in)
Turn: (8,392) Q

(2 players, 2 are all-in)
River: (8,392) 4

(2 players, 2 are all-in)

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09-14-2011 , 05:55 PM

martin_malin

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Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 3,332

very thin

09-14-2011 , 06:03 PM

#10

Jaseee

grinder

Join Date: Feb 2010 Posts: 505

Quote:

Originally Posted by martin_malin

very thin

Yea, Should of folded sigh

09-14-2011 , 07:48 PM

#11

Camzace

old hand

Join Date: Jun 2010 Posts: 1,351

Totally fine with the K3o jam, couple less bb and you're in ATC territory

09-14-2011 , 08:40 PM

#12

OMGClayDol

Carpal \'Tunnel

Join Date: Apr 2010 Posts: 11,061

It's not that thin. Should not have folded, don't be results orientated sir, gl.
I guess I'm "fine" with a fold since it's on the closer side but jam is better.

09-15-2011 , 12:13 AM

#13

martin_malin

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Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 3,332

the break even point is 13%,15%,24%

in the games I play those are pretty conservative calling ranges

09-15-2011 , 02:43 AM

#14

Jaseee

grinder

Join Date: Feb 2010 Posts: 505

I appreciate all the help =)
With the last hand, It was 5 spots away from the money, does that count for anything or no

09-15-2011 , 06:25 AM

#15

ONLYRAISEAA

Pooh-Bah

Join Date: May 2009 Posts: 4,880

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jaseee

I appreciate all the help =)
With the last hand, It was 5 spots away from the money, does that count for anything or no

if something, ship wider because people don't like to bubble

09-15-2011 , 11:57 PM

#16

Andrew23122

adept

Join Date: Mar 2011 Posts: 812

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jaseee

Cheers for the advice, so a shove on the turn for optimal play

You don't need to shove the turn. However you need to make a raise that is too big to call or that commits you to the pot. Going all-in is fine too.

09-16-2011 , 01:41 AM

#17

Courier83

newbie

Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 42

With AK hand I am usually betting 250 on the flop and shipping the turn vs random.

K3o hand I am usually starting here with Kxs and K6o against randoms or one of those three being reg.

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