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01-18-2014 , 02:09 PM

AlphaBeat

newbie

Join Date: Nov 2012 Posts: 15

Hated folding here, and I think I might have been wrong. Your thoughts?

Poker Stars, $3.19 Buy-in (25/50 blinds) No Limit Hold'em Tournament, 9 Players
Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite.

Hero (MP3): 1,125 (22.5 bb)
CO: 1,110 (22.2 bb)
BTN: 1,460 (29.2 bb)
SB: 1,850 (37 bb)
BB: 1,490 (29.8 bb)
UTG+1: 2,865 (57.3 bb)
UTG+2: 1,465 (29.3 bb)
MP1: 680 (13.6 bb)
MP2: 1,455 (29.1 bb)

Preflop: Hero is MP3 with A

4 folds, Hero raises to 125, CO calls 125, BTN folds, SB calls 100, BB calls 75

Flop: (500) J

(4 players)
SB checks, BB checks, Hero bets 250, CO folds, SB calls 250, BB folds

Turn: (1,000) 2

(2 players)
SB checks, Hero checks

River: (1,000) Q

(2 players)
SB bets 550, Hero folds

Spoiler:

01-18-2014 , 04:13 PM

beauvanlaanen

Carpal \'Tunnel

Join Date: Dec 2013 Posts: 12,487

yeah prolly a fold.

01-18-2014 , 05:08 PM

fidstar-poker

I'm gonna need a hacksaw

Join Date: Jun 2012 Posts: 33,544

jam turn

01-18-2014 , 05:19 PM

dguia

adept

Join Date: May 2010 Posts: 789

Quote:

Originally Posted by fidstar-poker

jam turn

01-19-2014 , 06:55 AM

Mattyk1992

banned

Join Date: Jul 2011 Posts: 889

Why are we checking back the turn?

Definatly a missed spot to shove!

01-19-2014 , 10:46 AM

Dny

centurion

Join Date: Aug 2011 Posts: 102

Why would you jam turn here?

01-20-2014 , 06:39 AM

AlphaBeat

newbie

Join Date: Nov 2012 Posts: 15

I checked back the turn becuase Villan check-insta called Flop. Now I think he might doing with all his pairs as well as Jx. Perhaps Turn Jam was the best option with only 750 behind

01-20-2014 , 08:05 AM

LoveFish2013

journeyman

Join Date: Feb 2013 Posts: 346

jam turn huh??

01-20-2014 , 12:18 PM

Dny

centurion

Join Date: Aug 2011 Posts: 102

sorry, didn't notice that you have 750 chips OTT. yeah, jam is good, although he's got us beat often there I think

01-20-2014 , 01:28 PM

#10

beauvanlaanen

Carpal \'Tunnel

Join Date: Dec 2013 Posts: 12,487

jamming turn only gets called by a Jx, no?

01-20-2014 , 05:01 PM

#11

dguia

adept

Join Date: May 2010 Posts: 789

Quote:

Originally Posted by beauvanlaanen

jamming turn only gets called by a Jx, no?

Then so be it, that's why we shove he folds the other part of his range

01-20-2014 , 09:45 PM

#12

BeauVanny

centurion

Join Date: Jan 2013 Posts: 198

Quote:

Originally Posted by dguia

Then so be it, that's why we shove he folds the other part of his range

Why would we want him to fold other parts of his range that we are beating, your logic is flawed here...?

01-21-2014 , 04:57 AM

#13

dguia

adept

Join Date: May 2010 Posts: 789

Quote:

Originally Posted by BeauVanny

Why would we want him to fold other parts of his range that we are beating, your logic is flawed here...?

Just based on the logic than we only get called with J, or peraps you have a better reason to not shove there?

01-22-2014 , 06:21 PM

#14

BeauVanny

centurion

Join Date: Jan 2013 Posts: 198

I think we get called by more than Jx hands. Also I wouldn't take too much stock into V insta calling. That doesn't necessarily strength or weakness. Often it means he's not a reg/competent player and isn't thinking about the actions.

01-23-2014 , 04:42 AM

#15

MasterJ009

old hand

Join Date: Mar 2011 Posts: 1,386

jam turn
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