hi,

i did post somefing similar to this before but im just curious as to whether better profits can be made grinding mtt sng's, 18,45, 90, 180 mans than 9 man sngs?

and what are the differences, why would players play mttsng as opposed to sttsng given same stakes?

any grinders here of these formats provide some insight?

if you are good stay at STTs

As a general rule I think the larger the field, the more profitable a tournament is to play in. This is because a larger percentage of the field will be fish. Bigger prize pools attract more fish. $125 for first place in a $2.50 tournament is much more attractive than $9 for first in a $2 STT.

Some regs dislike the variance of the larger field tournaments and prefer to play STTs. I've never grinded STTs myself so I haven't seen how reggy they are but from what I hear they have a pretty high percentage of regs compared to other formats.

yeah in general it's true, at least higher roi attainable. but also takes longer so hourly considerations differ and smaller fields often load faster so you can get more games/hour possible. anyway if you are good it's a big change for not much incentive, if you are not so great you can consider your options. a lot of differences, such as how "fun" they are, variance/etc

my background is that i started playing STT since 7 years ago, recently grinding them and fairly consistent in them. there are regs at these STT's and often i do come across them.

sheer volume is what im aiming.

besides the obviously time it takes to load an 180 man stt mtt, ive heard BR requirements have to be higher?

what would be a typical ROI figure for both stt sng and mtt sng? and would anyone have relevant br requirements for either? (i currently have 130 BI's for my level, im underutilising my BR i know, but im also grinding so im taking into account that)

if our looking for sheer volume then i guess you are after rakeback/bonuses. Why not give 6 max hypers a go and see how you run in those.

depends on turbo, non turbo stakes
roi for turbo 7 stt might be like 7% ish
non turbo 12%

turbo 50 stt 3%ish
non turbo 8% ish

turbo 180 man 20%ish
non turbo 180 man 100%

etc. above are mainly just examples but somewhat accurate

and yes more swings in 180s so 130 is really aggressive/loose br management

not really looking for bonuses/rakeback typicall but any FPP's would help me get my 3mil fpp for the porsche cayman S

looking at pure profit, wonga, cash at bank, moolah, but say i play 9 tables, typically i get an ROI of about 20% in STT (according to hem this month)

dont necessarily like turbos or hypers, as there is a noticeable difference to them and i havent quite figured out optimal push/fold shortstack play and as a result my BR suffers hugely. its noticeable as i play 40-50 normal stt, and make 20%, then play 40-50 turbo stt and lose 10BI's. so i know where my strengths are, its def not turbo!

100% for an 180 man? is that the reason people play them?

neither one is better than the other, it just depends on what suits you best

in your decision you should consider the following.

• bankroll
• variance/swings and how you handle it (worse in MTT obv)
• length of session
• enjoyment of format
• rakeback/FPP/VIP/stellar rewards/BOP etc (likely to be a bigger part of income from STTs/18mans than from 180s)

Ultimately you have to calculate for your own personal situation