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01-08-2012 , 09:10 AM
Is my Squezze pre too big? I didnt want to get 2 callers here. Had not many reads on the caller he played
33/25 after 13 hands fwiw
With less thand Pot left i think i cant really fold my hand. I decide to bet small on flop to let him ship something worse maybe. Is there still oppertunity to check fold.

    Poker Stars, $4.10 Buy-in (300/600 blinds, 50 ante) No Limit Hold'em Tournament, 9 Players
    Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #11562002

    UTG+2: 18,331 (30.6 bb)
    MP1: 13,943 (23.2 bb)
    MP2: 27,635 (46.1 bb)
    MP3: 5,645 (9.4 bb)
    CO: 25,748 (42.9 bb)
    BTN: 6,810 (11.4 bb)
    Hero (SB): 18,935 (31.6 bb)
    BB: 8,228 (13.7 bb)
    UTG+1: 20,386 (34 bb)

    Preflop: Hero is SB with A K
    UTG+1 folds, UTG+2 raises to 1,485, 3 folds, CO calls 1,485, BTN folds, Hero raises to 5,999, BB folds, UTG+2 calls 4,514, CO folds

    Flop: (14,533) T 6 4 (2 players)
    Hero bets 4,555, UTG+2 calls 4,555

    Turn: (23,643) 6 (2 players)
    Hero bets 8,331 and is all-in, UTG+2 calls 7,727 and is all-in

    River: (39,097) 2 (2 players, 2 are all-in)




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    01-09-2012 , 01:37 AM
    A bit smaller Pre, about 5k. As played, shove the flop. And sigh shove turn.
    01-09-2012 , 02:17 AM
    I like the preflop bet sizing, as it sets it up perfectly for a pot sized shove on the flop.
    01-09-2012 , 02:18 PM
    +1 to this sizing and shove any flop. SB is kinda mayhem to have AK in this spot with these stacksizes so a case can be made to just shipping. i particularly like tribetting/getting in on the flop. don't raise this sizing as you lose FE on the turn and you are absolutely going broke here.
    01-09-2012 , 03:01 PM
    This is not the final table; there are simply not enough chips in play. Average stack when down to last nine should be 30k, but there isn't even a single player with that many chips. This is probably the F2T; there are ~146k chips at this table, just over half the total chips in play in a 180man.

    Preflop sizing seems fine iyam. I'm also just shoving this flop.

    Don't think I'll be shoving any flop though, not against randoms in a 4/180. Doubt we have to level anyone in one of these when we flop the nuts, or virtual nuts.
    01-11-2012 , 05:56 AM
    Yes sorry was final 2.
    01-11-2012 , 05:59 PM
    good sizing pre, shove this flop, looks pretty innocuous, don't wait till turn to shove
    01-11-2012 , 07:45 PM
    Thanks for your reply guys. But by the way I dont agree with you this time.. Looks like you want to get fold Equity on the flop. (dont really know cause nobody gives a reason for why he is shipping) I dont see against what. I think AK is unlikely and I dont see 77/88/99 folding here. I want him to desperate ship AJ/AQ/KQ/ basically any broadway. Thats why i like this smaller sizing. Im comitted anyway. The only one who gave kind of a REASON for shipping is arrtvandelay. And i dont want to get fold EQ because I dont think many better hands are folding no matter what.
    01-11-2012 , 09:49 PM
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by mcone
    Thanks for your reply guys. But by the way I dont agree with you this time.. Looks like you want to get fold Equity on the flop. (dont really know cause nobody gives a reason for why he is shipping) I dont see against what. I think AK is unlikely and I dont see 77/88/99 folding here. I want him to desperate ship AJ/AQ/KQ/ basically any broadway. Thats why i like this smaller sizing. Im comitted anyway. The only one who gave kind of a REASON for shipping is arrtvandelay. And i dont want to get fold EQ because I dont think many better hands are folding no matter what.
    If I understand the point you're coming across correctly this is basically very villain-dependent. Some villains will fold small-medium pairs on the spot because of what you're repping here. villains will hardly ever float this board with air, unless they're just awfully bad, which makes it just a very small % of villain's holding you're getting some value from. also if villain has small-mid pocket pairs you'll get more value from these hands if you shove and they call. you're absolutely going all in here, right? so if you bet flop and shove the turn, the A or K might make villain fold 22-tt or something, if they don't come you're drawing to 6 outs on the river, making you a huge underdog now. by not going all in on the flop you're inducing floats, and that's usually bad when they're floating % comes from hands that either connected to the board or are pairs.
    01-13-2012 , 03:58 AM
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    also if villain has small-mid pocket pairs you'll get more value from these hands if you shove and they call.
    I dont understand this!

    This is a reg speed 180 man pretty much all players here are bad. That he called my big reraise pre tells me he is bad

    If I am shoving i try to fold out. 22 / 33 / 55
    About 77 / 88 / 99 Im not sure but i guess he is not folding.
    Instead of trying to fold out these smaller pockets, which in my opinion is hard on a T high flop. I try to induce spazz from Broadway hands which im well ahead against.
    And yes I think Im definitely going broke.

          
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