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Stats for 180s. What do i miss or is better leaving out?

when I push in mp with 10 to 12BB with A2+ KT+ any pp I tend to run better hands. I dont do that anymore because of that. Mind issue? or is that the wrong play?

Hey MUD,
you think this is a useful push chart, i also tried to consider what you said about pre bubble time (bolded numbers)




what would you change?

Hello MUD

1 -Its reasonable for a guy who plays about 2 hours a day, and maybe 4 hours at the weekend to play the 180? I would like to try those but it seems I cant put enough volume right?

2- Whats the standar BRM for the 45s and 180? I read 100bi for the 180 but ive seen guys with more than 110BI swings.

3- What are some acceptaple ROIs at the 2.5$ and 8$ 180s on stars? And for the 3.5% and the 7$ 45s?

4- As those MTTSNGs usually take some time to fill, do the grinders usually play a mixture of 45s and 180s or something like that?

5- What do you think its the apropriate MTTSNG for a guy like me who plays 16 hours a week?

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hey dna, nice well.

At what kind of 45m final table stacksetups are the $27+ regs most leakish and what would the leak be?

How do you adjust from $EV ranges when playing as an absolute shortstack at final tables, looser or tighter in general, or just stick to $EV? (f.e 20k-14k-14k-14k-6k in 600/1200 or smt with you playing as the 6k stack.) Same question but then with the 14k stack in 1000/2000.

way too tight!

so where would you do the most significant adjustments?
i doubt you can push lighter at the $6+ SGNs.
Maybe you can get away at the $3,5 with lighter ranges.

congrats on all the success bro.

how many tables do you normally play your best?

would shoving atc w/10-15bb into a big stack w/15bb be +ev or a very risky move on the bubble of a 45 man if there is a super ss with 4-6bb bout to bust? is it profitable longterm? or do you just wait?

when you have a big chip lead after the bubble of a 45 man , do you abuse your opponents or do you just wait on your stack?

TY

can u give like 3 different examples of this?

Would you solely use Wiz to learn ICM spots or did you use something else, or another method, or something?

do you mean 18s/45s? For 180s your table looks extremly tight, for example 10bb pre ante I shove like 66+, AJ+, ATs+, KQs. Work with SNGWizard, fix the calling ranges and you will see what you can shove profitably.

Hey, btw, why do you suggest using 18m $EV structure here? Didn't you mean 45m or is there some kind of reasoning for it?

its for the 45ers.
and yes i did that based on SNGwizz ranges.

i would not shove tighter with 14 Players left. You need a stack for the final Table. I think the adjustment you have to make is to call tighter than chipev, because the icm factor is high. But if you shove tighter you often get to the final table as a smallstack or midstack and almost never as a bigstack.

How much do you change the default ranges in Sng wiz? Is it usually just by a small margin or are there situations where sng wiz has someone as calling 16% for example and you change it to 30? Are those calling ranges realistic and needing to be changed just a bit at time (for example a few percent off if its a tight player and just a few more if its a looser)?

Is SNGwiz absolutely essential to become profitable in 180s? Same question for ICM, $EV and cEV. (and reading the Kill Phil books)

With 12-15bbs pre ante will your shoving range be for value as opposed for stealing blinds?

Hi mud I appreciate you doing this and I am sure others are too, I am looking to get into the sng grind but I am unsure as to which would be best to start off with I was thinking of the $2.50 180 man with about $400 starting bank roll, what do you reckon the best mmtsng would be for profit? Should I play purely 180 or mix in 3.50 45's ?

Another question is what would be the best set up for a person just starting out to multitable (what software would be required) I have ATM a HUD program but I'm still unsure as to what stats are vital, which stats do you show / mainly
look at when deciding on a call etc

would I need to purchase programs like HEM? Sngwiz? are there any free equivilants?

Thanks, and do you have any additional advise? Fred

Sorry for the wait guys.

E to MP w/ 7-10bb preante you should be shove/folding very tight. Up to the $2 w/ 10-14bb preante I would just raise 2.5x with premiums including AQ, shove 77-99, and fold the rest

I like Bubble Factors concept a lot, but don't like using it as an average. If you're going to learn using bubble factors then just go all the way and use specific stack sizes.

By the way this reminds me, for those of you who are skeptical about ICM pre-final table, bubble factor is the best wayto see how important it can be

I like it a lot more than I used to and more than I expected to. It became way more fun when I just started trying to exploit the weak players as much as possible and not worry so much about good players in turn exploiting me.

I shove 88 and I often minraise AA, but that doesnt need to be exploitable as long as you sometimes shove AA (which any regular can attest to me doing in a lot of spots most don't) and/or minraise a few hands you might normally fold (say QJ or A10). Its not hard to have a balanced minraise/shove/fold range so you dont need to be exploitable

1. I always would, but its possible in rebuys for the initial buyin (and by extension any single rebuy when you get to 0 chips) and addon to be +EV but for the rebuy(ie going from 1500 to 300 chips) to be -EV. In fact depending on my table I often wouldn't rebuy in the 100r

2. Always addon in a non satellite MTT if the addon gets you more chips than the rebuy

3. there is nothing precise about it, you can never know ranges completely. Experience and SNGWiz + SNGPowerTools

4. Reviewing hands using those tools and talking about hands w/ friends

Yes I did in 2008, and I only got about half of points needed from MTTSNGs. It would have been extremely difficult to get there with them only but not impossible