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08-16-2011 , 10:20 PM
Just saw this subforum, which was a needed addition. I was always pretty hesitant to give out advice even to small stakes players, given how easy i think it would be to move up. And you dont have to move up very far in order to get to the highest stakes where my ROI would've go down. However now that Im not playing them and wont be for the foreseeable future, I'd like to give something back as I originally learned from 2+2 and have taken way more from here than I've given back. And MTTSNGs is my main expertise imho so here is where I can give the most back. I am(was) DNA2RNA on Stars and Tilt and have played the mid-high stakes 18-180mans on Stars mostly for the last 4 years

Dan
08-17-2011 , 02:46 AM
Nice MUD. I would love to know about few things, but one for now:

At the starting stage of 45 man and 180 man, (you have 25-30 hands, so no such big reads), you are dealt with 77-TT (say MP2,MP1 ), there is strong(3-4BB) raise just before you. effective stack 25-30BB. what will be your default action in both game(45/180) if the villain is reg and if the villain is random.
Thanks
08-17-2011 , 03:43 AM
wow, sick results and very nice topic

let me just ask one question, do you see a big difference between for example 7$/45, 15$/45 and 30$/45? because in my opinion, there is ofc huge contrast between $1 and 7$, but to be honest i don`t see so big difference in higher stakes

just one point to the previous question - reg would never raise 4bb, even 3bb raise is imo big with 25-30 BB
08-17-2011 , 04:01 AM
For example I'm on BU with 12BB, SB is 5BB and BB is 14BB.
Should I count 12BB as effective stack for push or average stack, which would be 5+12/2 = 8.5BB, Or maybe I should look up for some deviation in favour of SB or BB depending on how likely they are going to call?
08-17-2011 , 04:06 AM
I've gotten into this bad (?) habit of just mucking any weak (A2-A9) ace from anything other than LP (and even then I will too often refuse to open the hand against aggros), and I don't vary this until I've either got a decent (40 BB+) stack or we're at shorthanded tables really late. Huge leak? Prudent, if overly patient, strategy? I see so many "ace-fishers" obv, and they often nail me but I never nail them because of my approach. U were a good player on Stars, I def used to watch you and even play you a little (nothing memorable as I recall tho, and I deleted my HEM so can't even check for any hands). Thx. God how I miss Stars. (sob)
08-17-2011 , 04:08 AM
What are your definitions of stacksizes? for example 1-21BB stack means pushfolding, never betfolding, restealings, pushing over limpers. 22-31BB stack - aggresive play, option to stop and go... 32-41bb.. never 3bet fold.. etc... what are your strategies depending on your stack?
08-17-2011 , 04:10 AM
Is it possible to profit playing 50 tables at once and push/fold using equilibrium strategy?
08-17-2011 , 04:22 AM
Do we ever pass cEV or $EV spots in MTSNG's?
08-17-2011 , 04:49 AM
What would be optimal operaising ranges from all positions 75-100bb deep at the start of MTSNG?
08-17-2011 , 05:24 AM
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Originally Posted by marw842
just one point to the previous question - reg would never raise 4bb, even 3bb raise is imo big with 25-30 BB
you misquoted me. I said 'a strong raise' and it can be regs/random and 3BB/4BB.

3BB is definitely standard with 30BB at least in $3.5-$7 game (it means you are raising to 150 when blinds are 25/50 and you have 1500)
08-17-2011 , 05:56 AM
Hey Dan do you have time mybe for sweat sessions =? I am plying 180mans so i would be gratefull for help if you are interested i could pay you 50-50 for profit... pm me or add me on skype bugsbunnyd
Greetings
Daniel
08-17-2011 , 06:05 AM
You get to mash your all in button against one of the three celebs below... Who do you choose?

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08-17-2011 , 10:43 AM
Hey MUD.Very kindofyou to enligthen us with your precious advices.I am a new player and I want to start playing 45s and 180 micro stakes more regularly.Which books do you recommend to start with and also what other advices can you give to new players that want to succeed in this form of poker regarding the learning curve and steps that should take.
Keepup the good work.
08-17-2011 , 10:52 AM
How do you adjust your calling ranges vs randoms that you have no info on?
For example a reg shoves 10bbs from the CO and your in the BB you can call/fold perfectly cause you have a very good read on their range.
Now lets say a random shoves 10bbs from the CO how do you adjust?Does the buyin affect your calling ranges.Lets say its a random in a 3r 180 or a $35 180.Do you presume that the random in a 35$ would be shoving closer to optimal in this spot?
Thanks for doing this!
08-17-2011 , 10:53 AM
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Originally Posted by chasehendricks
You get to mash your all in button against one of the three celebs below... Who do you choose?

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definitely all-in on #1
08-17-2011 , 02:41 PM
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Originally Posted by sayakmitra
Nice MUD. I would love to know about few things, but one for now:

At the starting stage of 45 man and 180 man, (you have 25-30 hands, so no such big reads), you are dealt with 77-TT (say MP2,MP1 ), there is strong(3-4BB) raise just before you. effective stack 25-30BB. what will be your default action in both game(45/180) if the villain is reg and if the villain is random.
Thanks
25bb i would shove all against random, fold 77 shove 88-10 vs standard reg

30bb I would call all of them against random (against a 3x), shove 99 and tt against 4x. Against a reg 30bb would be very read dependent, all options are open w/ all those hands, leaning towards folding 77, r/c tt
08-17-2011 , 02:44 PM
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Originally Posted by marw842
wow, sick results and very nice topic

let me just ask one question, do you see a big difference between for example 7$/45, 15$/45 and 30$/45? because in my opinion, there is ofc huge contrast between $1 and 7$, but to be honest i don`t see so big difference in higher stakes

just one point to the previous question - reg would never raise 4bb, even 3bb raise is imo big with 25-30 BB
I really wish I could answer that believe me. However I am American and haven't played the new buyin levels. but at the old levels there wasn't that much of a difference once you got to the 27 level and up just less fish and the regs are a little better
08-17-2011 , 03:48 PM
Thx for doing this. This is for 45 mans.

SNG Wiz suggests shoving very wide a lot pre-final table in chip equity mode. I'm beginning to think almost too wide at times. I've noticed a number of discrepancy's between Wiz's suggested ranges and what good winners suggest (I've seen a few videos now) and I'm just not sure what to trust at this point.

FYI I've got a few years experience with Wiz and I understand how what you put into it affects what you get out of it. I think I'm pretty competent at assigning reasonable ranges, etc.

Hope this isn't too vague, thx again.
08-17-2011 , 04:57 PM
Could you identify the most common leaks of small to mid stakes mtt-sngers who can't succesfully break into the higher stakes?
08-17-2011 , 05:12 PM
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Originally Posted by NoCompany
For example I'm on BU with 12BB, SB is 5BB and BB is 14BB.
Should I count 12BB as effective stack for push or average stack, which would be 5+12/2 = 8.5BB, Or maybe I should look up for some deviation in favour of SB or BB depending on how likely they are going to call?
There is really no shortcut or at least I've never thought of one. its definitely based on the calling frequencies of each particular opponent. Mid-game (say 300 or 400 blinds) nearly everyone (regs and randoms both) call too tight w/ 5bb in the SB, so I would shove extremely wide from the button there
08-17-2011 , 05:17 PM
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Originally Posted by Alizona
I've gotten into this bad (?) habit of just mucking any weak (A2-A9) ace from anything other than LP (and even then I will too often refuse to open the hand against aggros), and I don't vary this until I've either got a decent (40 BB+) stack or we're at shorthanded tables really late. Huge leak? Prudent, if overly patient, strategy? I see so many "ace-fishers" obv, and they often nail me but I never nail them because of my approach. U were a good player on Stars, I def used to watch you and even play you a little (nothing memorable as I recall tho, and I deleted my HEM so can't even check for any hands). Thx. God how I miss Stars. (sob)
I definitely steal w/ weak aces sometimes from MP if BB is weak tight and nearly everyone else has an awkward stack size 20-30bb
08-17-2011 , 05:26 PM
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Originally Posted by NoCompany
What are your definitions of stacksizes? for example 1-21BB stack means pushfolding, never betfolding, restealings, pushing over limpers. 22-31BB stack - aggresive play, option to stop and go... 32-41bb.. never 3bet fold.. etc... what are your strategies depending on your stack?
I dont have very many rules, I dont raise/fold less than 13bbs, I hardly ever fold AK on the flop esp. headsup if I started the hand w/ 25bb or less. but I will def bet/fold other hands w/ 20bbs. I just push usually on resteals if the raise is 1/10th of my stack or more, so hardly ever r/f 30bb or less basically. I don't stop and go much but if I do its only against randoms, oh and if you hit something when your planning on a stop and go, please check to randoms
08-17-2011 , 05:30 PM
Not related to MTTSNG, but I'd like to ask you dna2rna about your 2nd place in a Miniftops event for $116k?

How do you keep yourself composed in the final stages when blinds etc are so ****ing high, and surely adrenaline is like a major factor?
08-17-2011 , 05:32 PM
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Originally Posted by NoCompany
Do we ever pass cEV or $EV spots in MTSNG's?
cEV: dont think I've ever cashed a SNGMTT w/o passing up a cEV spot. so yea all the time

$EV: Never pass those up in SNGMTTs. But I might have passed up what SNGwiz says is $EV in extreme endgame situations a few times. But then again I didn't consider them +$EV spots, so the answer is still no, never
08-17-2011 , 05:36 PM
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Originally Posted by rubens
Hey MUD.Very kindofyou to enligthen us with your precious advices.I am a new player and I want to start playing 45s and 180 micro stakes more regularly.Which books do you recommend to start with and also what other advices can you give to new players that want to succeed in this form of poker regarding the learning curve and steps that should take.
Keepup the good work.
Hands down Kill Phil then Kill Everyone for books. Just read those, jump into the micros, and post here. Its just time and effort

      
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