PokerStars Hand #74182076034: Tournament #503445539, $3.19+$0.31 USD Hold'em No Limit - Level XVI (1500/3000) - 2012/01/20 13:48:38 ET
Table '503445539 1' 9-max Seat #6 is the button
Seat 1: Faaqs (31428 in chips)
Seat 2: Gobloc (23595 in chips)
Seat 3: Andrew23122 (38272 in chips)
Seat 4: PortlyPig (59798 in chips)
Seat 5: washurwinky (36702 in chips)
Seat 6: gregcalls (25671 in chips)
Seat 7: Osjuns2 (23286 in chips)
Seat 8: skillhack1.5 (36453 in chips)
Seat 9: verdhen (42908 in chips)
Faaqs: posts the ante 300
Gobloc: posts the ante 300
Andrew23122: posts the ante 300
PortlyPig: posts the ante 300
washurwinky: posts the ante 300
gregcalls: posts the ante 300
Osjuns2: posts the ante 300
skillhack1.5: posts the ante 300
verdhen: posts the ante 300
Osjuns2: posts small blind 1500
skillhack1.5: posts big blind 3000
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Andrew23122 [Ac Tc]
verdhen: folds
Faaqs: folds
Gobloc: raises 20295 to 23295 and is all-in
Andrew23122: ?

Nash's calling range: 5.9%, 88+ AJs+ AQo+



So giving position I think this is an ICM fold......?

i like a call here. he has less than 10bb's and everybody has roughly the same stack, if there are super short stacks i'll fold this but will call in this spot

Snap fold. We got a healthy stack no need to do -evcalls.

this is not FT

yeah lol easy call then.

True say.....

Totally

Eh..... I fold readless

Its a very close spot villain its a random, hence we cant determine with what he migh show up there consistently to say we have a +cEV spot there in the long run, im not saying its not a +cEV call or that it is for all that matter, im saying we cant determine anything for the fact villain its a guy with less than 2k turbos SNGs game experience.

its always a call with the stack sizes

you are wayyyyy ahead of his range if he's a decent reg, nh

i dont see how people think this is a snapcall, this will be based on read, but i am folding if no reads...

at can never have villain really dominated

This is usually profitable but villain-dependent. I get it in against most opponents. Don't get the ICM comment though. Not FT and even if it was, there are lots of even stacks, it's a 9-handed table etc.

there is icm from hand 1 at 10/20 in basically every non-winner take all sng/mtt/etc. except the bubble, icm becomes bigger every time someone busts until you get to heads up where it is 100% cev.. obv its not a significantly factor here but we still cant (shouldnt) play 100% cev. ignoring skill edge etc we still dont want to take break even (or close) +cev since every addition chip gained has diminishing increase in equity, doubling stack doesnt double equity etc etc

Yeah, ok, maybe I was over-stating but it's a pretty tiny consideration IMO.

Yea I messed up. Its not ICM

This is close but folding is best. You still have 5 hands behind you. I'd iso this from the cut or better but from your position I prefer a fold. AJ+ is fine to iso from your position but A10 is a bit thin.

I would call. It's not way ahead of his range but around 55% fav imo, hence pot odds are favouring us hugely (not considering ICM)
you are right; but usually if he is a reg, his pushing range is wider than NASH's pushing range in this spot.

i dont think theres an incorrect answer.i honestly dont know. its really villian dependent (duhh i know)id prob fold cos 5 behind