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12-12-2011 , 01:20 PM
45 mans we are in the money 7 left,how to get best value here on pretty tight tbl.?




    Poker Stars, (600/1,200 blinds, 75 ante) No Limit Hold'em Tournament, 7 Players
    Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #11291562

    : 11,219 (9.3 bb)
    BTN: 4,986 (4.2 bb)
    SB: 7,073 (5.9 bb)
    BB: 12,238 (10.2 bb)
    Hero (): 7,934 (6.6 bb)
    : 9,486 (7.9 bb)
    : 14,564 (12.1 bb)

    Preflop: Hero is with A A





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    Last edited by parenzo; 12-12-2011 at 01:28 PM.
    12-12-2011 , 02:00 PM
    Depends on the players behind....?
    12-12-2011 , 02:04 PM
    I'm jamming because anything else looks suspicious as hell and you represent a much wider range. If you were a bit deeper, 12+bbs you could consider minraising or something but with 6.6 I think you can only push.
    12-12-2011 , 02:35 PM
    Depends on many things - the buy in level, the players yet to act etc and how aggressive they may be and whether there are any regs still at the table. These influences decision making in terms of do you minraise or should you shove or should you limp and so on.

    If the table is fairly low buy in with some aggro players I would min raise. They arent quite on the level to view it as suspiscious and they cant help themselves shoving over your , what they perceive, "weak raise".
    12-12-2011 , 02:45 PM
    yeah,level was micro,and all players were pretty tight...,normally never slowplay this in micros and wanted to try something else,also stacks were pretty odd
    12-12-2011 , 02:48 PM
    >10BB jam full range. Better to get into the habbit now than move up in stakes later and get killed for it.
    12-12-2011 , 07:13 PM
    It really depends on your image and the other players.

    If you are seen as an aggro player shoving a ton then keep shoving you will see poeple/even regs call with very weak hands. If there is a reg (who doesnt really know you) left to act and may punish you for limping then that is an option. Also, you need to rule out a m/r as all the stacks are so short that no one (good and bad) will think you are folding to a shove. The worst you could do is limp, see a flop and then fold to a shove from the blinds as they will be stop n go'ing a lot.

    I prefer shoving to maintain balance
    12-13-2011 , 12:18 AM
    with this stack size even fish arent really bad enough to give you more value if you just raise instead of shove, i mean with 10 they might flat or rejam dumb hands because they are bad/think they have fold equity/lol_fish_logic but with 6 even fish wont flat/rejam dumb stuff most of the time. so shove.
    12-13-2011 , 12:28 AM
    Think you really need some amazing reads/great reasons to be limping here and I can't think of many. I basically agree with above on that even fish won't be nearly as nutso behind with 6bb vs 10 re: min raise which means only reason left to minraise is if you regularly work it into your game in similar situations. If this is a micro/small 45 man, you probably have no great reason to be doing that based on the general quality of play, structures etc. So think for many reasons this will very often be a shove, and the times it is not is because you have some really great feel for what's going on that can't really be echoed in the forum environment as the 'default'/'generally best' play. Hope that makes sense.

    Cliffs: Shove.
    12-13-2011 , 12:06 PM
    Minraise, 45 mans are fishy as hell and will def. get more value, I see this all the time.
    12-13-2011 , 06:08 PM
    at an unaware table min raising will get more value, at an aggro table shove blind. If you have regs/aware players just shove not to give reads on your play.

          
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