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3.5 r 180 , ak vs utg short shove and utg+1 reshove

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02-04-2014 , 08:24 PM

PAULETA_PT

centurion

Join Date: Nov 2012 Posts: 114

Hello,
I always shove ak in this situation , but like to hear some oppinions what you do in this specific situation.

Villian is almost an unknow: 22/12 3 bet 14,4 over a sa

Poker Stars, $3.19 Buy-in (1,250/2,500 blinds, 250 ante) No Limit Hold'em Tournament, 8 Players
Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #23218431

SB: 63,467 (25.4 bb)
BB: 18,390 (7.4 bb)
UTG+2: 49,061 (19.6 bb)
MP1: 6,694 (2.7 bb)
MP2: 46,583 (18.6 bb)
Hero (MP3): 40,520 (16.2 bb)
CO: 48,298 (19.3 bb)
BTN: 38,138 (15.3 bb)

Preflop: Hero is MP3 with A

UTG+2 folds, MP1 raises to 6,444 and is all-in, MP2 raises to 46,333 and is all-in, Hero calls 40,270 and is all-in, 4 folds

Flop: (92,734) 7

(3 players, 3 are all-in)
Turn: (92,734) 7

(3 players, 3 are all-in)
River: (92,734) 9

(3 players, 3 are all-in)

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mple of 30 hands

02-04-2014 , 09:17 PM

fidstar-poker

I'm gonna need a hacksaw

Join Date: Jun 2012 Posts: 34,028

pretty hard not to do what you did

02-04-2014 , 10:29 PM

beauvanlaanen

Carpal \'Tunnel

Join Date: Dec 2013 Posts: 12,487

MP2 shove should be strong with bigger stacks behind I'm tempted to sometimes fold this hand but I can't fault you for shoving/calling off.

02-04-2014 , 11:14 PM

fidstar-poker

I'm gonna need a hacksaw

Join Date: Jun 2012 Posts: 34,028

I think he is more likely to raise to 5-6bb with Aces or Kings

02-05-2014 , 06:52 AM

dguia

adept

Join Date: May 2010 Posts: 789

Easy to gii, and as fidstar says if the MP2 is smart enough with Aces or Kings he should 3b-induce, we are def fine against his reshove range

02-05-2014 , 09:50 AM

onlinepokerwiz

banned

Join Date: Sep 2013 Posts: 380

Asuming shortie is somewhere around 45% of hands and the isoer is around 66+,AT+,KQs u have...

Thats over 2.5bb of edge, a ridiculous edge to be doing anything else at 16bb

02-05-2014 , 09:52 AM

onlinepokerwiz

banned

Join Date: Sep 2013 Posts: 380

Quote:

Originally Posted by fidstar-poker

I think he is more likely to raise to 5-6bb with Aces or Kings

Quote:

Originally Posted by dguia

Easy to gii, and as fidstar says if the MP2 is smart enough with Aces or Kings he should 3b-induce, we are def fine against his reshove range

I wouldnt 3bet here to induce with AA/KK, seems pointless given the stacks sizes behind us, we´re not giving villains behind us enough room to try anything else, we´re basically taking away their fold equity besides, shorties shove sizing and pot size is perfect, its basically an open raise, large enough to flat and leaving at the same time villains with enough chips behind to try something on us.

02-05-2014 , 10:48 AM

dguia

adept

Join Date: May 2010 Posts: 789

Quote:

Originally Posted by onlinepokerwiz

Ok i probab went to fair with that inducing, you are right there that the stacks behind don't live that room for it. My bad

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