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08-18-2015 , 05:39 AM

lilantas

grinder

Join Date: Apr 2014 Posts: 679

[converted_hand][hand_history]Poker Stars, $3.16 Buy-in (40/80 blinds, 10 ante) No Limit Hold'em Tournament, 7 Players

VILLAIN (BB): 1,560 (19.5 bb)
MP1: 1,182 (14.8 bb)
MP2: 3,014 (37.7 bb)
MP3: 1,988 (24.9 bb)
CO: 3,361 (42 bb)
BTN: 1,803 (22.5 bb)
Hero (SB): 1,202 (15 bb)

Preflop: HERO is SB with A

5 folds, Hero raises to 1,192 and is all-in, VILLAIN calls 1,112
Is this right shove with 15bb?with mathematics this is true because my ev= +1.09 villain has got vpip=13 pfr=12 on 120 hands.. My tourney m=6.03. do you think its shove? or not? thanks guys..

08-18-2015 , 05:52 AM

LektorAJ

Carpal \'Tunnel

Join Date: May 2014 Posts: 7,837

Seems standard. Why do you think it isn't a shove?

08-18-2015 , 06:18 AM

F0ldz!ll@

journeyman

Join Date: Mar 2012 Posts: 294

Standard.
Even raise/call against right opponents.

08-20-2015 , 06:43 AM

lilantas

grinder

Join Date: Apr 2014 Posts: 679

Quote:

Originally Posted by LektorAJ

Seems standard. Why do you think it isn't a shove?

lektoraj i have my doubts about shove because i have 15 bb and not less 10.. and also my tournament m is 6,3 and not 5 less...i hope you understand what i mean

08-20-2015 , 10:56 AM

LektorAJ

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Join Date: May 2014 Posts: 7,837

I would say more like 8 or less would be shove/fold territory rather than 5 or less. From the small blind you can go even higher like up to 10 rather than play OOP.

08-23-2015 , 09:43 AM

lilantas

grinder

Join Date: Apr 2014 Posts: 679

Quote:

Originally Posted by LektorAJ

I would say more like 8 or less would be shove/fold territory rather than 5 or less. From the small blind you can go even higher like up to 10 rather than play OOP.

ok i understand you..i didnt know this.i thought that if i had 10 bb and more and my tournament m was 5 or more the best move is to raise and if the opponent shove me i would thought again what i would to do..but ok i understood .. thanks

08-23-2015 , 02:09 PM

TheMurderShow

banned

Join Date: Dec 2012 Posts: 355

shove , not really close imo

08-23-2015 , 04:45 PM

LektorAJ

Carpal \'Tunnel

Join Date: May 2014 Posts: 7,837

Quote:

Originally Posted by lilantas

It depends a bit on how the M is constructed (i.e. how much of it comes from antes and how much from blinds) because that relates how big a min-raise is relative to the M and therefore whether or not it's possible to have much of a raise/fold range in a particular situation (if it isn't and you are only raise-calling then you might as well get it in yourself rather than let Villain choose).

But yes, I would say 8 is a good boundary and 5 is low.

08-24-2015 , 07:13 PM

lilantas

grinder

Join Date: Apr 2014 Posts: 679

Quote:

Originally Posted by LektorAJ

thanks lektor

08-25-2015 , 04:31 PM

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Nofear47

old hand

Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 1,822

The hand is so strong bvb I will shove and raise/call it. It really depends on the opponent spazzy aggro players i will always opt to raise/call this.

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