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2,50 FT BTN shove K3o 2,50 FT BTN shove K3o

02-01-2012 , 09:32 PM
[converted_hand][hand_history]Poker Stars, $2.28 Buy-in (2,000/4,000 blinds, 400 ante) No Limit Hold'em Tournament, 7 Players


MP3: 62,206 (15.6 bb)
CO: 27,310 (6.8 bb)
Hero (BTN): 76,262 (19.1 bb)
SB: 33,200 (8.3 bb)
BB: 33,093 (8.3 bb)
MP1: 25,475 (6.4 bb)
MP2: 12,454 (3.1 bb)

Preflop: Hero is BTN with K 3
4 folds, Hero raises to 48,000,


SB: fish
BB: reg

Shoving?
Shove range?
02-01-2012 , 09:35 PM
It's a bit too wide for me.
I'm more tight with a reg on bb.
02-02-2012 , 03:57 AM
lets say k8+ but k3 deff to wide here
02-02-2012 , 06:27 AM
easy shove i would say, any king good for me
02-02-2012 , 07:37 AM
any 2 is a shove. ANY TWO ****IN CARDS. LMAO IF U FOLD KING HIGH OTB IN THIS SPOT. its a +1bb shove at the minimum.
02-02-2012 , 07:40 AM
hmmm, too wide there, but not horrible...i would shove k9o and k2s.
is ok cos ur 1st in chips at ft, they will have to add some % for ICM, but if BB has M=3.2 he can call with a lot of hands that do well against ur wide shove range from BTN.
Just my oppinion
02-02-2012 , 08:21 AM
In my opinion easy shove with k high
cause there are 5 players about 8bb and they are ****ting their pants which is goin out
02-02-2012 , 08:43 AM
Probably +cev but I usually fold this in-game depending on villain/game-flow. Then again, I suck at these spots. Anyone wizzed it?
02-02-2012 , 09:21 AM
if you consider your stack and SB and BB's stack and ICM, then I think K high is profitable shove (Double check in wiz in case)
02-02-2012 , 09:43 AM
how bout 72o? we can shove 72o here if villain is only calling w top 20% of hands. just plugged in the numbers in a pushbot excel.
02-02-2012 , 09:53 AM
pre final table/icm spots shoving atc is fine vs randoms but on ft even vs most randoms atc is a sizable mistake. this spot is so much more further from cEV than say 125/250/25 random hands.. you can't play cev cause every chip you gain to your stack is worth relatively less than every chip you lose since every chip in play will only equate to first prize, which is not all the prize pool (as 2nd place etc get money)

cbb wizzing atm but i am almost 100% sure they have to call absurdly tight on the ft here for 72 or a random trash to be profitable. cev 72o is +ev vs a tight range. even k3o won't be profitable vs. many ppls range. bearing in mind k3o has terrible equity vs a tight calling range anyway and is similar to 32o probably lol
02-03-2012 , 10:53 AM
with the size of blinds and antes,ye id shove it.
02-04-2012 , 01:23 PM
Woudn't reg would be way tighter here, he and others are all around 30k. In that case K high fistpump shove

      
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