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11-22-2011 , 01:56 PM

striiing

Pooh-Bah

Join Date: Oct 2008 Posts: 4,402

are these fold/push?

Poker Stars, $2.28 Buy-in (125/250 blinds, 25 ante) No Limit Hold'em Tournament, 8 Players
Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #11109902

BTN: 1,265 (5.1 bb)
Hero (SB): 2,895 (11.6 bb)
BB: 2,360 (9.4 bb)
UTG+2: 4,380 (17.5 bb)
MP1: 3,380 (13.5 bb)
MP2: 5,730 (22.9 bb)
MP3: 2,895 (11.6 bb)
CO: 4,900 (19.6 bb)

Preflop: Hero is SB with 5

7 folds

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11-22-2011 , 01:57 PM

striiing

Pooh-Bah

Join Date: Oct 2008 Posts: 4,402

Poker Stars, $2.28 Buy-in (600/1,200 blinds, 125 ante) No Limit Hold'em Tournament, 6 Players
Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #11109912

Hero (BTN): 8,509 (7.1 bb)
SB: 6,671 (5.6 bb)
BB: 13,326 (11.1 bb)
UTG: 10,025 (8.4 bb)
MP: 18,758 (15.6 bb)
CO: 9,221 (7.7 bb)

Preflop: Hero is BTN with T

3 folds, Hero raises to 8,384 and is all-in, SB folds, BB calls 7,184

Flop: (18,118) 5

(2 players, 1 is all-in)
Turn: (18,118) 6

(2 players, 1 is all-in)
River: (18,118) 5

(2 players, 1 is all-in)

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11-22-2011 , 01:58 PM

striiing

Pooh-Bah

Join Date: Oct 2008 Posts: 4,402

Poker Stars, $2.28 Buy-in (200/400 blinds, 50 ante) No Limit Hold'em Tournament, 8 Players
Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #11109932

CO: 2,430 (6.1 bb)
BTN: 3,923 (9.8 bb)
Hero (SB): 4,355 (10.9 bb)
BB: 4,655 (11.6 bb)
UTG+2: 14,200 (35.5 bb)
MP1: 9,109 (22.8 bb)
MP2: 4,270 (10.7 bb)
MP3: 4,230 (10.6 bb)

Preflop: Hero is SB with 4

7 folds

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11-22-2011 , 02:01 PM

robwa

grinder

Join Date: Nov 2010 Posts: 483

I would fold all except 4To

11-22-2011 , 02:02 PM

striiing

Pooh-Bah

Join Date: Oct 2008 Posts: 4,402

bit of a light call from the BB IMO

Poker Stars, $2.28 Buy-in (300/600 blinds, 50 ante) No Limit Hold'em Tournament, 9 Players
Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #11109952

MP1: 6,053 (10.1 bb)
MP2: 2,329 (3.9 bb)
MP3: 7,682 (12.8 bb)
CO: 6,940 (11.6 bb)
Hero (BTN): 3,529 (5.9 bb)
SB: 15,549 (25.9 bb)
BB: 13,490 (22.5 bb)
UTG+1: 5,318 (8.9 bb)
UTG+2: 7,252 (12.1 bb)

Preflop: Hero is BTN with Q

6 folds, Hero raises to 3,479 and is all-in, SB folds, BB calls 2,879

Flop: (7,708) 9

(2 players, 1 is all-in)
Turn: (7,708) 7

(2 players, 1 is all-in)
River: (7,708) 9

(2 players, 1 is all-in)

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11-22-2011 , 02:05 PM

robwa

grinder

Join Date: Nov 2010 Posts: 483

good shove, ******ed call by bb

11-22-2011 , 03:14 PM

NiSash1337

Carpal \'Tunnel

Join Date: Dec 2010 Posts: 9,185

The J4o call isn`t "******ed", if the BU shoves like 60-70% it should be breakeven to +cev.

About the other spots, without any info you wont get an answer from me.

11-22-2011 , 03:46 PM

himomitsme

grinder

Join Date: Sep 2011 Posts: 538

hard to say anything without any info about the situation. why didn't you post reads? how we expect the players we are shoving into to react is more important than the cards we are holding imo.
in case you did not post reads because you didn't have any: maybe you are playing too many tables and autopilot too much. It helped my game a lot to tone down the number of tables for a while and pay more attention to table dynamics. I think this is generally a good idea to do that at least once a week for a session but in case you struggle to get an idea about the players in relevant positions/reads in general then maybe you should cut down the number of tables for a longer while and then gradually increase again once you pick up on things like that easier.

11-22-2011 , 06:36 PM

mysticpig

centurion

Join Date: Apr 2010 Posts: 159

fold all except t3 if infront arent mega loose, and q high all day. not the best call from BB tbh.not megabad tho.

11-22-2011 , 06:41 PM

#10

arrtvandelay

banned

Join Date: Nov 2010 Posts: 437

all read dependent imo. post stats.

11-22-2011 , 07:58 PM

#11

OMGClayDol

Carpal \'Tunnel

Join Date: Apr 2010 Posts: 11,065

lol push all depending on villains
the jx call was bad probably, doubt his thought process is btn is pushing wide enough so i call.

11-23-2011 , 12:15 AM

#12

striiing

Pooh-Bah

Join Date: Oct 2008 Posts: 4,402

Quote:

Originally Posted by arrtvandelay

all read dependent imo. post stats.

you can post the stats because you where at every table i played at lol

11-23-2011 , 01:26 AM

#13

4 card brett

centurion

Join Date: Oct 2011 Posts: 146

Shove em all good job sir

the only 1 i didnt like was the T3o from the button when the sb was so short also but that doesnt make it wrong just a crap spot and you get crap spots when short all the time

11-23-2011 , 04:28 AM

#14

arrtvandelay

banned

Join Date: Nov 2010 Posts: 437

Quote:

Originally Posted by striiing

you can post the stats because you where at every table i played at lol

11-24-2011 , 04:35 AM

#15

pkratitsbest

veteran

Join Date: May 2011 Posts: 3,035

without reads, im shoving close to ATC with under 10bbs BVB (with antes) unless BB is a gd regular

11-24-2011 , 04:45 AM

#16

martin_malin

veteran

Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 3,332

Quote:

Originally Posted by OMGClayDol

lol push all depending on villains
the jx call was bad probably, doubt his thought process is btn is pushing wide enough so i call.

yep

11-24-2011 , 10:32 AM

#17

betgo

banned

Join Date: Aug 2004 Posts: 28,590

The BvBs are read-dependent. The button ones are pushes with 6-7xBB and T or Q high.

11-24-2011 , 01:54 PM

#18

Downrock

journeyman

Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 299

I don't understand how you guys that are 24+ tabling have time for reads. Some sort of super humans?

11-24-2011 , 02:25 PM

#19

striiing

Pooh-Bah

Join Date: Oct 2008 Posts: 4,402

we see dead people

11-24-2011 , 02:58 PM

#20

Pokerman12345

old hand

Join Date: Nov 2010 Posts: 1,937

Shove all vs randoms foo suuure.

11-26-2011 , 11:17 PM

#21

OMGClayDol

Carpal \'Tunnel

Join Date: Apr 2010 Posts: 11,065

by reads i just mean stats, vip level displayed, avatar, username, recognition of the player/memory etc. (occasionally notes)

11-28-2011 , 08:31 PM

#22

Name Changed

banned

Join Date: May 2010 Posts: 2,074

really depends on villain. I think its more of a " is villain a reg or not " decision most of the time. not that much on VIP etc etc... obviously you distinguish between LAG and TAG regs after :-P
most of the regs are so good they are calling almost/near optimal range so most of the hands u posted are folds... obviously different vs fish/randoms

11-29-2011 , 04:33 AM

#23

striiing

Pooh-Bah

Join Date: Oct 2008 Posts: 4,402

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ssick_one

really depends on villain. I think its more of a " is villain a reg or not " decision most of the time. not that much on VIP etc etc... obviously you distinguish between LAG and TAG regs after :-P
most of the regs are so good they are calling almost/near optimal range so most of the hands u posted are folds... obviously different vs fish/randoms

i wouldnt say that

12-02-2011 , 07:48 AM

#24

OMGClayDol

Carpal \'Tunnel

Join Date: Apr 2010 Posts: 11,065

+1, most of the regs are so good.. no way lol
most of the regs call wide enough to make most of these hands unprofitable.. maybe

12-02-2011 , 09:13 PM

#25

basajax

centurion

Join Date: May 2010 Posts: 120

Can someone give me a list of good $2 180's regs? I'm grinding these a lot more lately but only saw some ******ed regs like sm0ll...

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