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12-13-2011 , 09:53 AM
First hand i posted on here hope i do it right.
So guy shoves he's pretty wide based on stack size vpip ect...I look down got JTo think this warrants a call.My pot odds are great getting nearly 3to1.But if i call here i loose all my fold equity.Does losing fold equity turn this into a fold? Maybe other factors i haven't considered like icm prize jumps ect...Can't get SNG wizard working at the moment.




***** Hand History for Game 1111111111 ***** (Poker Stars)
Tourney Hand NL Texas Hold'em - Monday, December 12, 12:14:03 ET 2011
Table 482729129 11 (Real Money)
Seat 3 is the button
Seat 2: Player2 ( $46792.00 USD ) - VPIP: 25, PFR: 25, 3B: 0, AF: 0.0, Hands: 28
Seat 3: Player3 ( $19583.00 USD ) - VPIP: 26, PFR: 20, 3B: 3, AF: 0.0, Hands: 104
Seat 6: Player6 ( $108400.00 USD ) - VPIP: 14, PFR: 12, 3B: 8, AF: 1.0, Hands: 193
Seat 7: Hero ( $35626.00 USD ) - VPIP: 23, PFR: 11, 3B: 5, AF: 1.6, Hands: 366996
Seat 8: Player8 ( $44899.00 USD ) - VPIP: 13, PFR: 6, 3B: 7, AF: 0.0, Hands: 32
Seat 9: Player9 ( $14700.00 USD ) - VPIP: 17, PFR: 7, 3B: 0, AF: 0.0, Hands: 54
Player2 posts ante of [$600.00 USD].
Player3 posts ante of [$600.00 USD].
Player6 posts ante of [$600.00 USD].
Hero posts ante of [$600.00 USD].
Player8 posts ante of [$600.00 USD].
Player9 posts ante of [$600.00 USD].
Player6 posts small blind [$3000.00 USD].
Hero posts big blind [$6000.00 USD].
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to Hero [ Jc Td ]
Player8 folds
Player9 folds
Player2 folds
Player3 raises [$18983.00 USD]
Player6 folds
Hero calls [$12983.00 USD]
** Dealing Flop ** [ 9h, 6d, 8c ]
** Dealing Turn ** [ 2d ]
** Dealing River ** [ 3d ]
Hero shows [Jc, Td ]
12-14-2011 , 04:33 AM
Confusing hh mate :/ I'd fold here
12-14-2011 , 09:32 AM
Just testing a different HH converter.


Poker Stars No Limit Hold'em Tournament - t3000.00/t6000.00 Blinds - 6 players
DeucesCracked Poker Videos Hand History Converter

CO: t46792.00 7.80 BBs - VPIP: 25, PFR: 25, 3B: 0, AF: 0.0, Hands: 28
BTN: t19583.00 3.26 BBs - VPIP: 26, PFR: 20, 3B: 3, AF: 0.0, Hands: 104
SB: t108400.00 18.07 BBs - VPIP: 14, PFR: 12, 3B: 8, AF: 1.0, Hands: 193
Hero (BB): t35626.00 5.94 BBs - VPIP: 23, PFR: 11, 3B: 5, AF: 1.6, Hands: 366996
UTG: t44899.00 7.48 BBs - VPIP: 13, PFR: 6, 3B: 7, AF: 0.0, Hands: 32
MP: t14700.00 2.45 BBs - VPIP: 17, PFR: 7, 3B: 0, AF: 0.0, Hands: 54

Pre Flop: (t9000) Hero is BB with J T
3 folds, BTN raises to t18983, 1 fold, Hero calls t12983

Flop: (t40966) 9 6 8 (2 players)

Turn: (t40966) 2 (2 players)

River: (t40966) 3 (2 players)
12-14-2011 , 09:35 AM
Yes that looks better think deuces cracked converter is the way forward.
12-14-2011 , 09:39 AM
I call 32o in this spot. Its far from your whole stack at risk. Yeah your fold equity takes a hit if you lose, but it's worth it for the ~50% of the time you win here and get in a good position to go for one of the top spots.
12-14-2011 , 05:05 PM
i really dont think 32o is a call you are just spewing a ton of equity icm would say fold i believe with 6 left
12-14-2011 , 05:36 PM
Wiz says against a 70% pushing range we lose 0.18% of the prizepool (having 11.67% if we fold) when we call with 32o. Its also +800 cEV. We're hardly spewing equity. I'm inclined to take this spot. ICM isnt perfect in turbos, we need chips to survive and we're pretty short so I don't like passing up clear +cEV spots.

Going on ICM alone wiz says to call 90% btw.
12-14-2011 , 08:19 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by liamof
Wiz says against a 70% pushing range we lose 0.18% of the prizepool (having 11.67% if we fold) when we call with 32o. Its also +800 cEV. We're hardly spewing equity. I'm inclined to take this spot. ICM isnt perfect in turbos, we need chips to survive and we're pretty short so I don't like passing up clear +cEV spots.

Going on ICM alone wiz says to call 90% btw.
Does anyone have anything to add to this? Is this the correct play?
12-15-2011 , 08:00 AM
www.pokericmcalculator.com/icmizer/#MyZr

ICMIZER says call with ~80% vs a ~70% range
fold JTo if he is tighter than 10%

OP's spot is obv not close but its nice to know how wide you can call in some spots and when OP's hand is a sigh fold.

      
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