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05-25-2012 , 05:30 AM

biceps

old hand

Join Date: Apr 2012 Posts: 1,478

Hey guys,

What do you think about this spot?
villain is aggro random (I had about 300 hands on him) and i had decent table image, no spewing or showdowns with crap hands.
What do you think is the best action here and what would you do?

Poker Stars, $2.28 Buy-in (2,500/5,000 blinds, 500 ante) No Limit Hold'em Tournament, 4 Players
Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #12973742

BTN: 15,845 (3.2 bb)
Hero (SB): 118,680 (23.7 bb)
BB: 108,098 (21.6 bb)
CO: 27,377 (5.5 bb)

Preflop: Hero is SB with A

2 folds, Hero raises to 11,750, BB raises to 107,598 and is all-in, Hero calls 95,848

Flop: (217,196) 9

(2 players, 1 is all-in)
Turn: (217,196) K

(2 players, 1 is all-in)
River: (217,196) 2

(2 players, 1 is all-in)

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05-25-2012 , 06:05 AM

agregatx

stranger

Join Date: Jun 2010 Posts: 9

raise/fold or open shove.

According to ICM, A5s isn't good enough to raise/call with those two shortstaks at the table.

05-25-2012 , 08:45 AM

biceps

old hand

Join Date: Apr 2012 Posts: 1,478

I never or rarely consider ICM if I think I've put people on right ranges. And since winning this hand more or less means winning the tourney I think I did good here.

05-25-2012 , 09:38 AM

URWRSTNTMARE

journeyman

Join Date: May 2011 Posts: 275

Raise/fold is the only option here imo. Too deep to shove, although possibly still profitable. Raise / call is just spew, especially if your image is as you say. Why would he risk his stack here without a premium? Also, I'm not an icm expert by any means, but isn't this the stage when it matters most?

05-25-2012 , 04:39 PM

biceps

old hand

Join Date: Apr 2012 Posts: 1,478

I guess he was applying pressure beacuse of the short stacked guys which actually showed to be the case. And I guess you're right about the ICM, this is the spot to apply some of that. Any other thoughts on this hand?

I have a simmilar (well not quite but still...) spot from today, what do you think about this one or in other words what would your ranges to raise/call or shoving be here? (villain is aggro-reg):

Poker Stars, $2.28 Buy-in (3,000/6,000 blinds, 600 ante) No Limit Hold'em Tournament, 3 Players
Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #12982122

BB: 110,911 (18.5 bb)
BTN: 58,571 (9.8 bb)
Hero (SB): 100,518 (16.8 bb)

Preflop: Hero is SB with J

BTN folds, Hero raises to 14,100, BB raises to 110,311 and is all-in, Hero calls 85,818 and is all-in

Flop: (201,636) T

(2 players, 2 are all-in)
Turn: (201,636) Q

(2 players, 2 are all-in)
River: (201,636) 2

(2 players, 2 are all-in)

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05-25-2012 , 04:47 PM

hardcoreUFO

Carpal \'Tunnel

Join Date: May 2012 Posts: 16,281

Hand 1 r/c the bigstack is very bad. Even when you put people on the right ranges, that's still a very standard fold to the shove. A5s just doesn't have enough equity for you to put the tournament at risk here. Although winning this hand puts you very near to winning the entire tournament, you're never ahead much.

Hand 2 I like r/c but it's a very different scenario. Here you're actually quite ahead of the regular's tribet jamming range and your equity in the tournament isn't as massive as in the last spot.

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