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2$ 45 men post vs stop n go 2$ 45 men post vs stop n go

03-01-2012 , 09:02 PM
your play..10 player left

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NL Holdem $600(BB) Replayer
SB ($12,011)
BB ($4,522)
Hero ($8,742)
CO ($5,309)
BTN ($4,610)

Dealt to Hero A J

Hero raises to $1,290, fold, fold, fold, BB calls $690

FLOP ($3,130) J Q T

BB bets $3,182 (AI), Hero calls $3,182


villain is pretty aggro 10% 3bet 300 hands
whats better, raise call or just push?

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NL Holdem $200(BB) Replayer
Hero ($3,720)
BB ($6,606)
UTG ($1,855)
UTG+1 ($1,878)
UTG+2 ($2,019)
CO ($5,313)
BTN ($2,615)

Dealt to Hero 2 A

fold, fold, fold, fold, fold, Hero raises ? [color=red]
03-02-2012 , 02:09 AM
#1 probs folding, you're against a two pair here, terrible board.
#2 betting 415 against a TAG, completing against passive, folding against LAG
03-02-2012 , 02:26 AM
thought my equity would likely be this:

equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 54.986% 50.07% 04.92% 77321 7599.00 { 99+, A9s+, Ah8h, Ah7h, Ah6h, Ah5h, Ah4h, Ah3h, Ah2h, K9s+, Q9s+, J9s+, T9s, Th8h, 98s, A9o+, KTo+, QTo+, JTo, T9o }
Hand 1: 45.014% 40.09% 04.92% 61921 7599.00 { AcJc }

but a flip with 10 players left, donno if that is desirable in a 45er
03-02-2012 , 04:09 AM
I think I'd just shove pre with these stacks, unless you think one/some of the players are particularly spewy and will rejam when they shouldn't with bad hands or something.. but as played I would call AJs, why would you assume you are against two pair? Villains will have worse one pair hands, especially with a draw, and sometimes just a plan draw. Depends a bit on the villain I guess.

With A2o I am just raise 2.2x or so/folding vs. everyone. I would almost never raise/call it as you need them to be re-jamming REALLY wide for that to be better than raise/folding. Also, there are a few people I would occasionally consider just open-jamming pre as it's unexploitable (by sklansky/chubukov terms) meaning no matter what % they call, it's guaranteed to be profitable. But raise/fold still better vs. a lot of people. Oh and also, if it's a reg (this is quite rare) who flats a lot in this spot, I'd just open jam as we are OOP with a hand that is guaranteed to be profitable to shove, but plays terrible (esp OOP) and hands like 87o can profitably flat our 2.2, but again most regs aren't "good enough" or just don't flat here very often in general.
03-02-2012 , 05:55 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Hermits_FTW
#1 probs folding, you're against a two pair here, terrible board.
#2 betting 415 against a TAG, completing against passive, folding against LAG
why are we folding versus a lag? Wouldn't it make more sense to let him spew a bit here?
03-02-2012 , 07:53 AM
1# hand: "sigh" and call, expect to see draw from the villain or some random Qx hand.
2# hand: Pre ante? Prolly just r/f. Don't think he's shoving wide enough to make it a profitable to induce a shove from him. Shoving yourself can't be bad either but pre-ante blah I wouldn't.

      
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