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2/180 AKo vs UTG 2x & flat @ T100 28bb 2/180 AKo vs UTG 2x & flat @ T100 28bb

12-05-2011 , 08:42 PM
    Poker Stars, $2.28 Buy-in (50/100 blinds) No Limit Hold'em Tournament, 9 Players
    Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite.

    MP1: 2,581 (25.8 bb)
    MP2: 1,120 (11.2 bb)
    MP3: 3,185 (31.9 bb)
    Hero (CO): 2,840 (28.4 bb)
    BTN: 2,776 (27.8 bb)
    SB: 803 (8 bb)
    BB: 1,165 (11.7 bb)
    UTG+1: 3,750 (37.5 bb)
    UTG+2: 1,305 (13.1 bb)

    Preflop: Hero is CO with A K
    UTG+1 raises to 200, UTG+2 folds, MP1 calls 200, 2 folds, Hero ?



    UTG 11/8 random 335 hands (just checked opr 900 180s lifetime with 3% roi, because seemed like reg stats)
    MP1 23/12 random 150 hands
    BTN lag random 34/20 17.6 3b 58 hands
    SB/BB randoms only have 5 hands with them.

    3b/f ? 3b/c ? flat? push? dunno whats the best to do here

    generally I don`t like idea of folding AK pre @ 2/180 because even those tight randoms does sometimes some ******ed stuff, but those 335 hands with 11/8 seems like he has some idea of what he is doing

    Last edited by FeelThePower; 12-05-2011 at 08:52 PM.
    12-05-2011 , 09:11 PM
    just jam. people like 3bet calling but i think a fair amount of ppl who recommend it in spots like this don't understand why. vs. a lot/most players it makes no difference especially in spots like this other than the fact that you might be more likely to get hood flatted by the mp1 fish which is bad and makes awkward flops (we can obv jam most flops but still). in this spot for example you are NEVER inducing utg to jam with a hand that he wouldnt have a call a shove with anyway (which is one of the reasons you want to 3bcall > jam, a) balance b) to induce from worse that wouldnt call a shove) so yeah im usually jamming here. even if hes a reg with a decent idea he should still be opening at least like 99 aqo so we have a decent amount of fold equity (he will fold prob all but jj+ ak or something, and if hes opening wider we have more fold equity) with 550 dead money in the pot. and occasionally the fish will call with crap after the original raiser folds. id never 3b/f. dont like flatting, its possibly an option but tbh if hes tight enough to the point where you want to jam (or 3b call) then you have pretty big reverse implied odds when you hit a/k)
    12-05-2011 , 09:23 PM
    thanks for input, yep i jammed pre, just now reviewing thought maybe 28bb is bit too much to jam.
    and yes with 3betting those randoms may flat and will be in awkward spots post with AK, and randoms still can call jam with worse.
    probably we can 3b to like 725-850 with QQ+ if all of them is randoms, so they can call with their trash and see the flop? but when i do it and overcard hits the flop i hate that i did it lol.

    btw flopzilla was the software that shoved how often with like specific hand you hit overcards etc ?

    edit: and ingame i i think i didn`t had those 335 hands (HM is now shoving 335 so dunno how much exactly i had on him while playing) and thought utg was tight random.
    12-05-2011 , 09:34 PM
    i think so regarding flopzilla.
    and yeah you can do that with QQ +, it's not balanced but doesnt need to be vs. randoms. yes 28 is a bit much vs. a reg but esp with him being perceived as a tight random at the time i'm fine with it

    also about the over cards yes it sucks if an over comes (most likely with qq, and then kk obv) but just dont forget we have selective memory.. they also will call with their a7o and stack off on t72 or something a lot, and plus we still win when there is an over a lot.

          
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