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11-02-2015 , 02:13 PM

URagnatha

adept

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PokerStars - $13.77+$1.23|150/300 Ante 25 NL - Holdem - 9 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

Hero (SB): 18.42 BB
BB: 22.63 BB (VPIP: 25.00, PFR: 18.75, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 17)
UTG: 13.03 BB (VPIP: 10.00, PFR: 11.11, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 10)
UTG+1: 9.17 BB (VPIP: 25.00, PFR: 25.00, 3Bet Preflop: 25.00, Hands: 28)
MP: 4.07 BB (VPIP: 15.79, PFR: 15.79, 3Bet Preflop: 11.11, Hands: 19)
MP+1: 7.29 BB (VPIP: 23.91, PFR: 4.55, 3Bet Preflop: 4.35, Hands: 46)
MP+2: 21.14 BB (VPIP: 8.70, PFR: 4.55, 3Bet Preflop: 12.50, Hands: 23)
CO: 18.53 BB
BTN: 18.98 BB (VPIP: 31.25, PFR: 12.50, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 16)

9 players post ante of 0.08 BB, Hero posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 2.25 BB) Hero has 6

fold, fold, fold, fold, fold, fold, fold, Hero raises to 18.34 BB and is all-in, fold

Spoiler:

ok shove. of course we have lower effective stacks with many payers left to act. its a lot to open shove from utg. think i should of r/f? r/c? depending on who shoves if any?

11-02-2015 , 02:19 PM

onehandatatime

old hand

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100% shove

11-03-2015 , 04:18 AM

nomalice

old hand

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u can raise call it profitable also,but i dont see anything wrong with shoving it.

11-03-2015 , 04:34 AM

Kristofero

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shuv > r/c. FE.

11-03-2015 , 10:50 AM

nomalice

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Kristofero

shuv > r/c. FE.

its debatable

11-03-2015 , 09:18 PM

Kristofero

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Quote:

Originally Posted by nomalice

its debatable

Sure is. Think about Hero's FE too.

11-05-2015 , 01:35 PM

nomalice

old hand

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u re maximizing FE with shove here obv,but im not sure we want to do that, 66 is pretty strong bvb hand

11-05-2015 , 01:53 PM

Stellamoose

grinder

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Quote:

Originally Posted by nomalice

u re maximizing FE with shove here obv,but im not sure we want to do that, 66 is pretty strong bvb hand

If we open and get peeled by the BB, which from the small VPIP/PFR sample above is not out of the question, we put ourselves in an awkward spot on a majority of flops.

I have no problem committing all the chips here BvB, so I am leaning towards the simpler (and probably more profitable line) and shoving.

11-06-2015 , 02:29 AM

Nofear47

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r/c making the pre bet raise 2.4bbs or so

11-06-2015 , 06:55 AM

#10

nomalice

old hand

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but i agree, i like shove here too because of great possibility of BB flatting and going postflop

11-06-2015 , 09:51 AM

#11

Nofear47

old hand

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22-44 jam
55+ raise/call vs crazy aggro guys

yes he is going to flat wide which is a good thing so increase your bet preflop make him pay to see a flop. Fire out most flop smallish. 66 is too strong to just rip 18 bbs imo

11-08-2015 , 12:18 PM

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LektorAJ

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It's only 8 csi and we are presumably nearing the money, so I would just jam or fold bvb. 66 being a jam obv.

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