what u recomended guys with this hand? i find that with PT4 and SNGW2 should push. I forgot this is FT 7 left!

PokerStars - $0.45+$0.05|1250/2500 Ante 250 NL - Holdem - 7 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BB: 13.78 BB (VPIP: 31.25, PFR: 10.00, 3Bet Preflop: 18.18, Hands: 33)
UTG: 14.33 BB (VPIP: 16.36, PFR: 14.29, 3Bet Preflop: 12.50, Hands: 55)
Hero (UTG+1): 24.57 BB
MP: 25.13 BB (VPIP: 12.50, PFR: 4.17, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 27)
CO: 13.94 BB (VPIP: 22.22, PFR: 15.15, 3Bet Preflop: 16.67, Hands: 38)
BTN: 15.38 BB (VPIP: 17.39, PFR: 6.82, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 47)
SB: 0.88 BB (VPIP: 12.00, PFR: 10.64, 3Bet Preflop: 7.14, Hands: 52)

7 players post ante of 0.1 BB, SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 2.2 BB) Hero has T J

fold, fold, fold, fold, BTN raises to 2 BB, SB calls 0.28 BB and is all-in, BB raises to 13.68 BB and is all-in, BTN calls 11.68 BB

Flop: (28.83 BB, 3 players) T 5 7

Turn: (28.83 BB, 3 players) J

River: (28.83 BB, 3 players) J

I see this as an easy fold simply because payjump is almost secure here

Thats just a fold pre flop.

no way does software say you should push 10jo from utg +1 here ever!!!!!! you have entered something wrong this is such a super obvious fold always. the only reason you looked at it i presume is because you would of nutted.

sure bro.. i can show u the ICM from PT4 that said push. and also from SNGW2. not kidding...

I did not see your hand right. It can be a shove, depending on the ranges that you attribute to the players. It makes sense because you have the largest stack and you can put pression on the other stacks which are close to yours. Basically if you shove there you gonna make the other players fold really often.
But you have to be carefull with the ranges that you attribute to them because on this stacks most of the players do not understand ICM, I guess. In conclusion, they are calling more often than they should.

he is not the largist stack he is raising through someone who covers him who we have a huge bf against. Even if this was a GTO shove (which I seriously doubt) in real life its an insta fold! you think the bb playing 31/10 is going to call with a gto range!
Also if we did have a much bigger stack then table and table did have to fold almost everything vs us due to prescence of the micro stack this is a 50c bi they are not going to be considering icm sufficiently for us to abuse it.

just ran all this in hrc and you should be on a 14.1% range TJo is -0.15

yeap. thats true, when u mentioned that most of the player who play 50c dont pay attention to ICM. so in the end probably u've absolutely right about folding, witch btw i correctly did. lol