You think it is unethical for people to try to get their money off of a site that looks like a sinking ship? Would you say it is unethical to lie to potential new customers about cash out times?

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Hello I am curious how the average time for cash outs on your site?
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It sucks Americans have to put up with this. On a side note one thing that I think would help lock poker a lot is having a cash out que that players can check. Even when someone is facing a longer payouts seeing them moving u in the que would probably help a lot.

HAHAHAHAAH. shwoo that it funny... 6-8 weeks

Is this implying that it will be done at other stakes later? It seems by other posts it is killing games and I am pretty sure it would drastically hurt the games at other stakes if done there so I really hope Lock doesn't expand this.

I think Lock needs more traffic(at least for the games I play which aren't high stakes), not less as ring fencing basically does.

I also think the happy hour/grind tables hurt the games since they make it hard to start/keep tables going. Hard to start tables when there is like a half full happy hour table that might never fill but there might be some people that will sit a regular table from other skins. I wish Lock would get rid of those tables. I start as many tables as I can while I'm playing but it could be easier. Relevant to this topic I think, not trying to derail.

check other threads alrwsy happened to all fixed limit and now 2/4 PLO is gone, also tables on other skins playing but not on lock. Are you ****ing kidding shane you said it was only HIGH stakes games which were mainly relating to HU bum hunters. WTF now on all 6 max games too you are goin to segregate the gameS??? so it is virtually going to be lock exclusive eventually is what you're trying to??? dickheads

No we aren't.

And no we aren't declaring bankruptcy any time soon, the assumptions this is based on are wrong.

Hmmm...seems like something FTP would have said also, and did say during the 2 months they remained operation for ROW players after BF. Then they went tits up with everyones money.

I actually believe him.. look at how their playerpool is increasing.. do you really think they can mass up so badly to go bankrupt then?

In regards to the payment processing and slow cashout times, to me, the fact they're delaying so much is not much of a sign of liquidity problems (it could be, but as said above, i don't think so). It more than anything is a sign of pure shadiness in my opinion in the way their processing works, and infact they're probably making tons of money out of all of this, where the player is thought of in second place, but does get paid.

Could be true, but who knows. I wouldnt take anything Shane says at face value.

Also up to what limit has been segregated? I know someone said 2/4 plo is, is 400nl segregated too? I thought this was just high stakes not mid and high stakes?

Intertop players are saying goodbye to life as they knew it.

Well that's probably exactly why they're doing this then, to 'force' these top raking/playing players to play on Lock instead?

No, they are protecting their soft high raking players, so the last thing they want is for good players to come into the games from other skins. They are doing this to protect the poker ecology remember?

Its everything above 200nl, just checked. 400nl is NOT HIGH STAKES SHANE.

Oh, right, i'm sorry to get things confused

Cliffs anyone?

wtf shane you said it was only goin to be for high stakes NLHE how is 200nl considered high stakes?? you're reducing an already small player pool somits lock v lock, not protecting your ecology which I would bieve if it was just nosebleed HU games. **** you make me angry

Who is the decision maker on Lock(Jen Larson)? He/She should be removed immediately. The games will be dead on all skins in a matter of months if not weeks.

This is insane.

Yep this Jennifer Larson.

http://calvinayre.com/2012/06/24/bus...or-protesting/

http://www.winningpoker.org/news/lock-poker-scandals-2/

So no she won't be removed and Lock may be headed toward a similar fate as her last project.
http://www.moneyhouse.ch/en/u/p/firs....034.530-2.htm

200nl does not appear to be included. Its 400 and up, but still the rest of your statement is true. And 400nl is not even close to high stakes either.

2. Western Union, completed within 7-14 business days; 10% fee; min $120; max $2000

Are they actually telling people this? I have a WU withdrawal that I requested on Jan 1st and haven't gotten anything but "Verified" on it yet, and I know people have longer ones.

Oh yes, for sure they tell people this. Even if you point out it's untrue, they'll insist it is. Really disgusting.

correct, the 400nl and up games are almost completely dead on intertops now, other than the heads up nits sitting at 5684392 seperate tables lol

It will be interesting to see how this plays out.

I wonder what % of high stakes players are on Intertops vs. Lock.

Why is everyone saying they are doing this to kill intertops? I have both and the 1 2-4 game running on lock isn't exactly going to force Intertops to close up shop. In fact at some points, like as of this post, Intertops has more 400NL games running then lock. That said this is obviously a stupid decision and going to kill the games as a whole. I really don't get why they think this is a good idea

more games running on intertops then lock? I'll
be moving over fast cashouts good support all games below 400nl plus better higher ones. Done.