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05-01-2013 , 04:30 PM
hi,

i already mentioned my situation in another thread and i was told i should bring this to broader attention. i waited a few more days as i hoped lock support would come to a reasonable conclusion after i told them all the facts in two emails, but as i didnt get any reply, i feel i should put pressure on them this way (not expecting great developments obv)

so:

my SN at lock is Schneller (http://www.pokertableratings.com/cak...arch/schneller)
i always withdrew money from my account via moneybookers, never used any other payment method. while the cashouts took some time, they went through so far. unfortunately, right now (as many others) im not allowed anymore to withdraw money due to p2p transfers made

im not sure exactly about my p2p history, but i made some calculations

in total i received 90k in cashouts, deposited $100 and i have won 260k lifetime according to my hm database (which should be very close to 100% accurate)

therefore with 0 net incoming transfers i should have 170k in my account. as i have 185k in my account, the net incoming transfers should be 15k.

fwiw, the total rake should be $800 or so

so clearly the majority of my account balance originates from poker winnings. it is definately not acceptable im kept stuck with 185k in my account right now. also, i would definately be willing to pay a vig for the p2p transfers that havent be wagered by rake yet, so that i can withdraw that money

on a side note: there were new cashout options announced for people who have very large bankrolls and/or create a lot of rake. i never heard anything about that in the few recent weeks.

what i expect: someone looking into this asap and at least accepting my withdrawal requests
05-01-2013 , 04:38 PM
lol good luck pal

congrats on some nice gambling skills to run from $100 to $260k. how did you manage that?
05-01-2013 , 04:49 PM
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Originally Posted by greg nice
lol good luck pal

congrats on some nice gambling skills to run from $100 to $260k. how did you manage that?

mar


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05-01-2013 , 04:50 PM
nah i had 30k incoming transfers or so right at the beginning from a friend. most of my winnings come from dec 12, where i had a lot of goodrun on 50/100 hu

i forgot to mention in op btw: if lock wont find a satisfying solution within 1 week, i will ask my lawyer for legal help as im very sure, the current policy about transfers is not only just illogical, but its not covered by t&c of lock (and very shady obv)
05-01-2013 , 04:52 PM
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Originally Posted by ownage4u
nah i had 30k incoming transfers or so right at the beginning from a friend. most of my winnings come from dec 12, where i had a lot of goodrun on 50/100 hu

i forgot to mention in op btw: if lock wont find a satisfying solution within 1 week, i will ask my lawyer for legal help as im very sure, the current policy about transfers is not only just illogical, but its not covered by t&c of lock (and very shady obv)
Your lawyer will accomplish nothing, and Lock knows that.

Great job running up all that money, but the sad truth is that you will likely never see it.

Lock is broke and cannot pay anyone, let alone a single player with nearly 200k.

I would advise selling as much as possible, even if you're only getting 30 cents on the dollar.
05-01-2013 , 05:05 PM
Good luck ownage.
05-01-2013 , 05:12 PM
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Originally Posted by ownage4u
nah i had 30k incoming transfers or so right at the beginning from a friend. most of my winnings come from dec 12, where i had a lot of goodrun on 50/100 hu
So what your saying is most of your winnings (~215K once you net your numbers) came from one session, playing 50/100 HU, presumably against the same player.

And you don't see why this is suspicious from the site's point of view?

I feel bad for you man, man I can see why this think something might be strange here.
05-01-2013 , 05:15 PM
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Originally Posted by Gemaco
So what your saying is most of your winnings (~215K once you net your numbers) came from one session, playing 50/100 HU, presumably against the same player.

And you don't see why this is suspicious from the site's point of view?

I feel bad for you man, man I can see why this think something might be strange here.
You are braindead. Did you even read the OP?

Support did not question the sessions where OP won the vast amount of his money, but cancelled his cashouts due to recieving a player to player transfer.
05-01-2013 , 05:17 PM
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Originally Posted by Gemaco
So what your saying is most of your winnings (~215K once you net your numbers) came from one session, playing 50/100 HU, presumably against the same player.

And you don't see why this is suspicious from the site's point of view?

I feel bad for you man, man I can see why this think something might be strange here.
Why would lock paid on starting to him $90k if he would done something like chipdumping?
05-01-2013 , 05:39 PM
You have had close to 200k on Lock since December (almost 6 months) and you haven't been actively trying to get whatever you can for it? Did you seriously not see the writing on the wall in Jan, Feb, March, or April that Lock was going under?

I legitimately feel bad for you and I don't think that this situation is even close to right, but come on man. Having 200k+ on any site that isn't PS, FTP, or Party for 6 months seems absolutely ridiculous.

I think you should be more concerned with just getting your money off at any rate possible than about getting it cashed out at 90% or whatever through cashouts at this point.
05-01-2013 , 05:57 PM
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Originally Posted by shoemaker
You are braindead. Did you even read the OP?

Support did not question the sessions where OP won the vast amount of his money, but cancelled his cashouts due to recieving a player to player transfer.
Yes, and I am just thinking about it from Lock's point of view. Its much easier to just deny the cashout (when you know your companies going broke soon anyway) because of an 11K transfer then to try and prove it was chip dumping.

But whatever, I won't comment on this because I don't know the specifics. If you guys don't think its strange that someone would win the "majority" of their 200K winnings in one session then I guess its not as suspicious as I think.
05-01-2013 , 06:20 PM
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on a side note: there were new cashout options announced for people who have very large bankrolls and/or create a lot of rake. i never heard anything about that in the few recent weeks
This was announced back on March 1st. No one has been able to use these options, unfortunately, and I assume they don't exist.

On another note, I am in a similar position as OP, except I've grinded up my roll instead of having collected it through one player--although I have taken my fair share off of Marlo . I didn't notice the warning signs with Lock until February because I'm a college student and thus busy and don't have a lot of time to troll 2+2. In any case, the argument "you deserved it, shouldve seen it coming" is a really disingenuous. If someone gets money stolen from them when they live in Harlem, no one says, should've seen it coming, you live in Harlem.
05-01-2013 , 06:27 PM
here is the link to that threadfor high stakes cashouts btw

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/19...tions-1304375/
05-01-2013 , 06:31 PM
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Originally Posted by Cogitus
This was announced back on March 1st. No one has been able to use these options, unfortunately, and I assume they don't exist.

On another note, I am in a similar position as OP, except I've grinded up my roll instead of having collected it through one player--although I have taken my fair share off of Marlo . I didn't notice the warning signs with Lock until February because I'm a college student and thus busy and don't have a lot of time to troll 2+2. In any case, the argument "you deserved it, shouldve seen it coming" is a really disingenuous. If someone gets money stolen from them when they live in Harlem, no one says, should've seen it coming, you live in Harlem.
No, but if you've seen others getting robbed walking down dark alleys in Harlem and you decide to continue to walk down dark alleys is anybody going to be surprised when something bad happens?

200k is a lot of money and it's very irresponsible to not know who you are dealing with/where your money is sitting.

Again, I still feel really bad for the OP (assuming the money was obtained by the rules and not dumping, etc) and I hope this situation somehow gets resolved and he sees some/all of his money. However, I don't think paying lawyers is going to help one bit. I'm not sure where you think Lock is going to get all this money from to pay out.
05-01-2013 , 10:09 PM
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Originally Posted by Gemaco
Yes, and I am just thinking about it from Lock's point of view. Its much easier to just deny the cashout (when you know your companies going broke soon anyway) because of an 11K transfer then to try and prove it was chip dumping.

But whatever, I won't comment on this because I don't know the specifics. If you guys don't think its strange that someone would win the "majority" of their 200K winnings in one session then I guess its not as suspicious as I think.
What are you talking about? He never said most of his winnings came from a single session off of one player. When or where does it say that?

He said most of his winnings came "from 2012 December where he had a lot of rungood at hu 50/100". That is an entire month, in case you didn't know. Very common to win 20 buyins in a month playing HU cash.
05-01-2013 , 10:13 PM
Also gl OP I hope you get your money soon.
05-01-2013 , 11:20 PM
how did u get 90k off in 4.5 mths since dec.? arnt row skrill taking like 60+ days per 10k? wouldnt that = much less.
05-02-2013 , 12:58 AM
This sucks, hopefully you get the money
05-02-2013 , 05:39 AM
200k on lock is how much in real $?
05-02-2013 , 06:18 AM
60k probably
05-02-2013 , 08:58 AM
This is how Lock treats its players.

http://youtu.be/NImj5RMasV0?t=1m31s
05-02-2013 , 03:48 PM
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Originally Posted by TicKinTiMeBomB
how did u get 90k off in 4.5 mths since dec.? arnt row skrill taking like 60+ days per 10k? wouldnt that = much less.
nah i was withdrawing since september or so already, had some winnings before dec already

its quite frustrating shane doesnt even both to write anything in here. i would even prefer being lied at instead of being ignored completely lol
05-02-2013 , 04:25 PM
i feel you this is pretty horrid situation. unless they are trying to outright steal theirs no way they can not let you cashout your whole balance over 15k transfer. Shane y would that be.
05-02-2013 , 08:00 PM
wow this is insane
05-02-2013 , 10:29 PM
why did u lose 18k in 3 hands on aug 13th?

      
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