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11-21-2007 , 03:04 AM
If he slowed Queens he might lead turn the way you describe him. Your not really super deep
But your hand is definitely killing him more than 90% of time here
so stacking is +EV for sure IMO
why wouldnt you stack
he can play anything this way
Not just QQ
11-21-2007 , 06:50 AM
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This could be the worst thread by a decent player ever in hsnl
11-21-2007 , 07:14 AM
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BBV ----->
lol this pretty much sums it up.
11-21-2007 , 09:22 AM
Personally, I think if you're not prepared to get it in for 200BB's w/ the 2nd nuts against a fish when you have made your hand in a deceptive manner, you are going to be waiting for a VERY long time to get all in. I would shove 100.00% of the time and I am a nit 200BB deep.

If he really had QQ you're just being results orientated. If he didn't have QQ and you think it's an interesting spot, it's only really interesting against a thinking player.
11-21-2007 , 03:19 PM
shove. it sucks if he has qq, but you will be looked up by 44/77 often enough for shoving to be profitable. is there something about this situation that makes the decision close?
11-22-2007 , 07:44 PM
11-22-2007 , 09:43 PM
I shove TBH. Who can put BB on QQ with preflop and postflop action...
11-23-2007 , 07:38 PM
I vote aggressive call.
11-23-2007 , 10:40 PM
Is this thread a joke? instashove
12-02-2007 , 01:51 AM
No offense HEK - but this hand is a joke right?
12-02-2007 , 02:33 AM
thread would be much more interesting if board was Q, 10, 4, 2, 7, and we had 77
12-02-2007 , 02:35 AM
your incredibly high level of stupidity continues to amuse me long after our days of party poker together.
12-02-2007 , 03:25 AM
what are you doing in this thread? don't you have a donkament starting soon?
12-02-2007 , 03:49 AM
nice one HEK, that really stings.

I was actually surprised to see this before I get the typical text message or IM from El D where he points me to some hilarious HEK thread/comment that seems to defy all sense of logic. What on earth is going through your head when you post this hand? What are you expecting to see? Guess you never bothered to think about that.

I guess I'll have to send the text message this time...
12-02-2007 , 04:11 AM
lol @ you and El D texting each other to giggle about my threads.
12-02-2007 , 04:13 AM
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Villian in this hand is slightly loose and bad at 24/12. I don't have much play vs him but he will stack off lightly with 100bb's. I've been playing very loose and aggro at probably something like 31/22. I've been very active so far.

Full Tilt Poker, $10/$20 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 6 Players
LeggoPoker.com - Hand History Converter

MP: $2,000
Hero (CO): $5,405
BTN: $4,114.50
SB: $3,218
BB: $5,953
UTG: $2,257

Pre-Flop: T T dealt to Hero (CO)
2 folds, Hero raises to $70, 2 folds, BB calls $50

Flop: ($150) 7 4 Q (2 Players)
BB checks, Hero bets $120, BB calls $120

Turn: ($390) 2 (2 Players)
BB checks, Hero checks

River: ($390) T (2 Players)
BB bets $320, Hero raises to $1,350, BB raises to $2,980

It will be 2200 MORE if I decide to shove
lol
12-03-2007 , 09:19 AM
wow, how can you even think twice about this.
1st off, no RR PRE i don't think he's flating queens pre 6 handed.
2nd surely he'll raise on the turn and wont wait till the river or even raise the flop if he has trip queens.
3rd CLICK THE ALLIN BUTTON AS FAST AS YOU CAN AND SAY GG
12-03-2007 , 10:08 AM
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Originally Posted by A++Playa
wow, how can you even think twice about this.
1st off, no RR PRE i don't think he's flating queens pre 6 handed.
2nd surely he'll raise on the turn and wont wait till the river or even raise the flop if he has trip queens.
3rd CLICK THE ALLIN BUTTON AS FAST AS YOU CAN AND SAY GG

Expert check-raise over a check.
12-03-2007 , 10:09 AM
I don't get this thread HEK. Everything about the OP screams triple-fistpump-shove.
12-03-2007 , 01:38 PM
i wouldnt discount QQ so quickly, some people like playing it flatcall PF if they are deep for deceptioin/pot control. Weak, but he looks kinda weak/strange form you description: overvaluing hands for 100bb and being kinda scared (24/12 PF) at the same time.

Still can easily be lower set and more of them are possible so get it in pls.
12-03-2007 , 01:46 PM
RESULTS?!?!?!??!!
12-03-2007 , 02:15 PM
99% shove.

Results? WCP if he had QQ

-KG
12-03-2007 , 07:49 PM
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Originally Posted by HEK
what are you doing in this thread? don't you have a donkament starting soon?
i dont think you could have said anything lamer than this.
12-03-2007 , 08:14 PM
another strassa fanboy
12-03-2007 , 08:17 PM
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Originally Posted by Nielsio
Expert check-raise over a check.
huh?

      
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