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06-06-2009 , 08:36 PM
ty for goodlucks, was a fun tourney to play
i think i would rank my enjoyment of the games as
nlhe >> plo > stud8 = o8 = lhe = 2-7 td = razz > stud

the big antes in the nlhe were sweet, would be nice to have like a 3k nl event w/ big antes like that
06-06-2009 , 08:53 PM
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Originally Posted by snagglepuss
ty for goodlucks, was a fun tourney to play
i think i would rank my enjoyment of the games as
nlhe >> plo > stud8 = o8 = lhe = 2-7 td = razz > stud

the big antes in the nlhe were sweet, would be nice to have like a 3k nl event w/ big antes like that
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06-06-2009 , 08:55 PM
congrats chud!
06-06-2009 , 09:06 PM
Hey eagles you are a m oron. Kobe might be the best defender in the NBA, he is certainly in the discussion so pointing out his defense as a reason he's not top 5 (lol) just makes you look stupid.

edit: sorry bud that was a little harsh but it's true, replace stupid with uninformed or somethin
06-06-2009 , 09:17 PM
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Originally Posted by DAT MOOSE
Hey eagles you are a m oron. Kobe might be the best defender in the NBA, he is certainly in the discussion so pointing out his defense as a reason he's not top 5 (lol) just makes you look stupid.

edit: sorry bud that was a little harsh but it's true, replace stupid with uninformed or somethin
Kobe Bryant was not top 20 in defensive rating this past season
Kobe Bryant was 18th in defensive win shares this past season
Kobe Bryant was not top 5 in defensive player of the year voting
Kobe Bryant is not close to the best defender in the NBA
06-06-2009 , 09:42 PM
no, no, no datmoose is an nba scout and understands basketball better than everyone else because he played JV/lots of nba live/whatever.

he just knows these things and everyone else is dumb!
06-06-2009 , 11:27 PM
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Originally Posted by thatpfunk

also congrats to Rami for winning the $2500 HA. don't think he posts on here but he's a really nice guy and a great player.
+1
06-07-2009 , 01:05 AM
someone posted before about what the best router out there was , anybody remember what it was?
06-07-2009 , 04:24 AM
I played with Rami for a bit and he was crushing the table in the PLO rounds. He also seems like a really nice guy. Congrats to him for sure.
06-07-2009 , 05:09 AM
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Originally Posted by Praetor
someone posted before about what the best router out there was , anybody remember what it was?
Belkin for about 100$ imo, works great both wireless and wired
06-07-2009 , 05:43 AM
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Originally Posted by Praetor
someone posted before about what the best router out there was , anybody remember what it was?
It was a linksys G router running tomato firmware, shouldn't be that hard to find with search.

Edit: linksys wrt54g
06-07-2009 , 10:30 AM
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Originally Posted by thatpfunk
no, no, no datmoose is an nba scout and understands basketball better than everyone else because he played JV/lots of nba live/whatever.

he just knows these things and everyone else is dumb!
hey moron part 2 (you): I of course have very little idea personally, however I defer to the players, coaches, and commentators of the nba who all consider Kobe one of the best defenders in the league... Of course if your argument is similar to eagles (That height > all other skills) then of course shawn bradley is the greatest NBA player of all time, no arguments here
06-07-2009 , 10:46 AM
Being tall and very good at basketball is a much rarer skill set than being a wing who is a bulk scorer. Big men are much more valuable defensively because they are playing help defense in addition to playing man to man in the post.
06-07-2009 , 11:31 AM
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Originally Posted by Pudge714
Being tall and very good at basketball is a much rarer skill set than being a wing who is a bulk scorer. Big men are much more valuable defensively because they are playing help defense in addition to playing man to man in the post.
well... sure, but guards still have to play defense. you can't have your team suddenly morph into all big guys on D with a balanced offensive cast... i'm not even a kobe fan but he is clearly #2 if not #1 and i tilted b/c the ****** claimed hes not even top 5 (lulz).
06-07-2009 , 12:29 PM
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Originally Posted by DAT MOOSE
well... sure, but guards still have to play defense. you can't have your team suddenly morph into all big guys on D with a balanced offensive cast... i'm not even a kobe fan but he is clearly #2 if not #1 and i tilted b/c the ****** claimed hes not even top 5 (lulz).
Kobe isn't close to Howard, Bron, Wade or Paul. I'd gladly bet that all four of them have a higher PER than Kobe next year, given a minimum 50 games played.

edit: talking about four separate bets.

2nd edit: Or winshares or any other competent all encompassing stat.

Last edited by Pudge714; 06-07-2009 at 12:41 PM.
06-07-2009 , 01:33 PM
discussed this last night with some friends...

more athletic: lebron or kobe?
06-07-2009 , 01:39 PM
What particularly makes Wade better than Kobe? I'm pretty sure that nobody that has anything to do with the NBA (players, coaches, analysts)believe that Wade > Kobe.

I'm also fairly sure that if you inserted Kobe into the Hornet's roster and replaced Paul with some random decent PG (ex: Rafer or Derick Fisher), they would win more games/be a bigger threat to win a playoff series than they are now.

So how are Wade and Paul better players than Kobe currently? They just aren't, and I don't even think you could find a single NBA "expert" that would argue otherwise.

Big men and gaurds can't really be compared, but Dwight Howard is most definately not a better player than Kobe at this point. He is on the perfect team for a big man to dominate on the offensive end and still is very inconsistant. How many times has Kobe scored <10 points and been a total nonfactor in the playoffs?

Was Ben Wallace a better player than Kobe 5 yrs ago? I know Howard is obviously better offensively than Wallace was, but not so much that he is in the same class as Kobe, Lebron, and Wade.

Also, by the Kobe hater's logic, Kareem, Wilt, Russell, Shaq were all obviously much better players than Jordan because bulk scoring and wing defense just don't matter........Does not compute.

Last edited by nolebeezy; 06-07-2009 at 01:47 PM.
06-07-2009 , 01:41 PM
Lebron is a ****load more athletic and it isnt close. He is 6'8, 280, has 40+ inch vertical, and is one of the fastest players in the NBA in the open floor.
06-07-2009 , 01:43 PM
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Originally Posted by DAT MOOSE
well... sure, but guards still have to play defense. you can't have your team suddenly morph into all big guys on D with a balanced offensive cast... i'm not even a kobe fan but he is clearly #2 if not #1 and i tilted b/c the ****** claimed hes not even top 5 (lulz).
actually, he's clearly not #1 or 2 by any metric that gauges "basketball aptitude" (attributing them to wins created) so there may be a ****** here, but it's certainly not the guy claiming he wasn't even top 5.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gXRbiqm-HJA
06-07-2009 , 01:43 PM
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Originally Posted by drexah
discussed this last night with some friends...

more athletic: lebron or kobe?
lololol
06-07-2009 , 02:00 PM
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Originally Posted by nolebeezy
What particularly makes Wade better than Kobe? I'm pretty sure that nobody that has anything to do with the NBA (players, coaches, analysts)believe that Wade > Kobe.

I'm also fairly sure that if you inserted Kobe into the Hornet's roster and replaced Paul with some random decent PG (ex: Rafer or Derick Fisher), they would win more games/be a bigger threat to win a playoff series than they are now.

So how are Wade and Paul better players than Kobe currently? They just aren't, and I don't even think you could find a single NBA "expert" that would argue otherwise.

Big men and gaurds can't really be compared, but Dwight Howard is most definately not a better player than Kobe at this point. He is on the perfect team for a big man to dominate on the offensive end and still is very inconsistant. How many times has Kobe scored <10 points and been a total nonfactor in the playoffs?

Was Ben Wallace a better player than Kobe 5 yrs ago? I know Howard is obviously better offensively than Wallace was, but not so much that he is in the same class as Kobe, Lebron, and Wade.
the bold is the crux of the issue. basically, although many people think what you say is true, it is false. or at least, likely false. meaning, if you flip flopped those other guys for Kobe, then the lakers would gain wins and the other teams lose wins. thats what makes those other guys better than he.

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Also, by the Kobe hater's logic, Kareem, Wilt, Russell, Shaq were all obviously much better players than Jordan because bulk scoring and wing defense just don't matter........Does not compute.
because people who don't salute Kobe as the greatest ever are immediately Kobe haters?
Jordan was on a different level than Kobe. They're not similar players at all. Jordan was that much better that it's very much reasonable for those guys to be ahead of Kobe (which they are) but below Michael.
06-07-2009 , 02:11 PM
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Originally Posted by FoxwoodsFiend
seriously, i know these threads get derailed all the time but cricket? really? come on.
I hate it, but in fairness is it any worse than baseball? I think not.
06-07-2009 , 02:17 PM
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Originally Posted by Ra_Z_Boy
I hate it, but in fairness is it any worse than baseball? I think not.
lol
06-07-2009 , 02:24 PM
long ball larry
06-07-2009 , 02:54 PM
its really amazing what the Pau Gasol trade did for Kobe's reputation

without that deal the Lakers are a 5-8seed team this year and last, and the Lebron/Kobe debate doesn't happen at all, and a few others are likely put ahead of him pretty easily too

      
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