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02-10-2009 , 11:31 PM
Villain is 39/18/2.5 with 17% WTSD, 55% W$SD
4% 3-bet, fold to 3-bet 46%, check-raise flop 8%
C-bet 38%, fold to c-bet 63%


$2000.00 No Limit Hold'em - 5 players - View hand 34307
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UTG: $6045.62
CO: $2151.50
Hero (BTN): $6408.50
SB: $5764.00
BB: $2030.00

Pre Flop: ($30.00) Hero is BTN with A A
UTG raises to $70, 1 fold, Hero raises to $260, 2 folds, UTG calls $190

Flop: ($550.00) K 9 T (2 players)
UTG checks, Hero bets $390.00, UTG calls $390

Turn: ($1330.00) 6 (2 players)
UTG checks, Hero bets $1000.00, UTG calls $1000

River: ($3330.00) 2 (2 players)
UTG checks, Hero bets $2005.00, UTG calls $2005

More on the river? I doubt he calls a shove, so I'm atleast bet-folding flop+turn and def. gonna vomit if he shoves river. But I would not expect him to slowplay 2 streets on that drawy board.


The next hand is the very next hand - so he could be steaming a bit. Never seen him steam before though. General consensus amongst regs is that this guy is on a 2 week long heater - never losing a flip and catching every draw. (e.g. he check-calls J6ss on KQx ss two streets, then doesn't even lead river when he makes his flush.)


$2000.00 No Limit Hold'em - 5 players - View hand 34316
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BB: $2390.62
UTG: $2151.50
Hero (CO): $10090.50
BTN: $5754.00
SB: $2010.00

Pre Flop: ($30.00) Hero is CO with A A
1 fold, Hero raises to $60, 2 folds, BB calls $40

Flop: ($130.00) J 5 J (2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $95.00, BB raises to $190, Hero calls $95

Turn: ($510.00) 4 (2 players)
BB bets $2140.62, Hero cries

FWIW, it was a almost an instashove.

Last edited by ezdonkey; 02-10-2009 at 11:45 PM.
02-10-2009 , 11:41 PM
Villain had AK in the first hand
02-11-2009 , 12:20 AM
maybe slightly more on the first hand
I'd fold the second one.
02-11-2009 , 12:34 AM
02-11-2009 , 05:50 AM
Weird spot but i feel like he has Jx here a lot trying to rep being tilted.
02-11-2009 , 06:17 AM
Have you seen him CR-click before?

Have you seen him overshove turn before?

Have you seen him do both of the above before?

As you're underrepping you're hand so much I tend to call but it's really read/dynamics depended and the answers to the above questions are also important for our decision...
02-11-2009 , 10:55 AM
1) 2700

2) def. looks like fake tilt with a J, fold
02-11-2009 , 11:54 AM
I prolly would bet slightly bigger on hand 1. on every street. Hand 2 looks so much like a fake tilt, that I would fold it.
02-11-2009 , 02:11 PM
Hand 1 I like about 2600

Hand 2 I think need to keep in mind he never puts you on an overpair here. If the turn blanked and didnt make double flushes out there I'd be more inclined to call. Now given history and fact there's 2 flushes out there, this seems a great time to make a fake tilt overshove. He avoids any tricky spot when either flush hits and also has the image that might get him paid off by someone drawing to 2 outs. So I fold.
02-11-2009 , 03:47 PM
I like b/fold on river in H1 and call H2
02-11-2009 , 06:58 PM
Agree with recall me, i think on the first hand, your opponent had something like pocket queens maybe jacks...
Second hand i feel you have to call...
02-12-2009 , 12:13 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by THEGOATIAN
Weird spot but i feel like he has Jx here a lot trying to rep being tilted.
Agreed. It's way too reckless to bluff-shove 5x pot and to chance Hero having a Jack himself, or Hero getting brave with an overpair.
02-12-2009 , 01:33 AM
hand 2 seems instacall
02-12-2009 , 01:33 AM
Yup,

He had AJ and I ended up calling cause that's what I do
02-12-2009 , 06:04 AM
Wait why is everyone saying bigger on the river in hand 1. It seems perfectly played and I think your sizing is great vs some 37/18 who might find a fold with Kx vs a bigger bet but will just snap call this size every time.

Hand 2 seems like an easy fold.
02-12-2009 , 06:19 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by grindplz
Wait why is everyone saying bigger on the river in hand 1. It seems perfectly played and I think your sizing is great vs some 37/18 who might find a fold with Kx vs a bigger bet but will just snap call this size every time.
meh. a few more hundred on the river wouldn't make much difference in between him calling/folding Kx. Betting close to pot probably isn't a great idea but I think you can get away with betting a little more.
02-12-2009 , 02:34 PM
ok so like, when im at the table i probably snapcall number 2. but really this is simply because im terrible at poker and i dont have a fold button cause im pretty sure if uve never seen villain steam before hes not on super monster tilt shoving the 72o because of 1 beat. honestly i think we are beat here loooots and its a muck.
02-13-2009 , 04:38 AM
its not so much the shove on the turn, but the minraise on the flop, that makes me want to fold.
02-13-2009 , 05:34 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Hoopster81
excellent +1
02-14-2009 , 10:51 AM
I wouldn't mind a flop check in H2 but as played fold. Hand 1 was played very well.
02-14-2009 , 12:21 PM
Hand 2 is the easiest fold ever. Tbh, I wouldn't like calling with JT that much.
02-14-2009 , 01:22 PM
I woulda gotten owned in Hand 2. I may even have raised the flop.
02-15-2009 , 11:55 AM
Really would want to see steam coming out of villains ears to call overbet. You know you're looking at a Jx hand here the vast majority of the time. You know it but you talk yourself into calling because you cant lay down AA when you have reasonable excuse for villain to be bluffing. You convince yourself it is a tilt bluff but when he shows you trips you aren't surprised. At all, not even a bit. Are you? I would bet no one at the table was surprised to see villain have trips.
02-15-2009 , 01:45 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Dobinuvik
Really would want to see steam coming out of villains ears to call overbet. You know you're looking at a Jx hand here the vast majority of the time. You know it but you talk yourself into calling because you cant lay down AA when you have reasonable excuse for villain to be bluffing. You convince yourself it is a tilt bluff but when he shows you trips you aren't surprised. At all, not even a bit. Are you? I would bet no one at the table was surprised to see villain have trips.
are all of your posts like this?
02-16-2009 , 04:54 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Dobinuvik
Really would want to see steam coming out of villains ears to call overbet. You know you're looking at a Jx hand here the vast majority of the time. You know it but you talk yourself into calling because you cant lay down AA when you have reasonable excuse for villain to be bluffing. You convince yourself it is a tilt bluff but when he shows you trips you aren't surprised. At all, not even a bit. Are you? I would bet no one at the table was surprised to see villain have trips.
just want to thank you that you are probably the only HSNL regular who helps out the people in the micro stakes forum.

thanks

      
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