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11-30-2008 , 02:50 AM

#26

glaiearts

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was durrre really value betting there on the river?

11-30-2008 , 08:45 AM

#27

emKay

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One thing to note he needs to be good way less than 50% when his shove gets called. It's still a very sick hand, esp the turn/riv combo.

11-30-2008 , 09:22 AM

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phantom_lord

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Quote:

Originally Posted by thrasher789

Tom, did you think you were bluffing at the time when you jammed?

wat

11-30-2008 , 10:06 AM

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betting the turn planning to shove the river isn't that strange when you bet 1/3 pot on a board with two flush draws and your opponent flats with not much more behind.

11-30-2008 , 10:28 AM

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It's competely ridiculous how result oriented this board is, and how ******edly thin (read: bad) valuebets when called by worse are hailed as the moves of god himself.

11-30-2008 , 12:36 PM

#31

Poker monkey

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Quote:

Originally Posted by emKay

One thing to note he needs to be good way less than 50% when his shove gets called.

Incorrect.

11-30-2008 , 12:44 PM

#32

easycall

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i like mdma

11-30-2008 , 12:59 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by MDMA

It's competely ridiculous how result oriented this board is, and how ******edly thin (read: bad) valuebets when called by worse are hailed as the moves of god himself.

take your pick

11-30-2008 , 01:01 PM

#34

MDMA

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How surprising that I get a reply like that! It could of course not be that I am in fact objective enough to realize what the rest of the hailers do not?

11-30-2008 , 01:13 PM

#35

Dean Moriarty

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MDMA,

Is your screenname a level?

11-30-2008 , 01:16 PM

#36

ActionFreak

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it is just that there is nothing more exciting in poker than a razor thin value bet that gets called. this is so much better than a thread because someone won a couple of tournaments. it doesn't matter that much if it was a good play or not.. it is exciting to see

11-30-2008 , 01:18 PM

#37

ActionFreak

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i think the only thing better is a ridiculous (but successful) bluff when villian is getting insane pot odds.

ok maybe i am a durrr fanboy

11-30-2008 , 01:27 PM

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FoxwoodsFiend

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yeah, in fairness to MDMA going 3 streets there is probably -EV. he's kind of right here, but still: PA called and lost! that was pretty sweet imo.

11-30-2008 , 02:10 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by FoxwoodsFiend

yeah, in fairness to MDMA going 3 streets there is probably -EV.

....

seriously

Anyone saying durrr was making a -EV play should realize they are EXTREMELY pretentious and arrogant.

So stfu.

11-30-2008 , 02:27 PM

#40

MDMA

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Uhm Sizzler, what exactly are you trying to say sir

11-30-2008 , 02:33 PM

#41

ToTheInternet

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Son word in the street is that durrrrr makes plays that might be immediately slightly -EV but are net +EV when you consider metagame, balance and other complicated higher level shizzz that my small stakes brain can't fully comprehend son.

In addition: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H8DIyWK72OA

11-30-2008 , 02:45 PM

#42

ATAT

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I don't see how anyone thinks this is good poker. Exciting and fun, yes. If it were anyone other than Durrrr, people here would be laughing that river shove out of the building.

11-30-2008 , 04:03 PM

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playforfoodz

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i bet my life you saw it in Ninja's post - LOL, because you don't understand a word from what you've just said. and mdma is pretty much right, unless durrrr literally knows what PA is thinking on the turn, like word-for-word. On an off-chance patrik called him with K-high, i will eat a kitten alive and post a video on youtube.

i guess durrr thought that if this play succeeded, pa would go on a mad tilt that will last for much longer than this sesh, and his future ev vs him will offset -ev of this particular hand, because, seriously, this is such a brutal ownage

Last edited by playforfoodz; 11-30-2008 at 04:31 PM.

11-30-2008 , 05:30 PM

#44

snagglepuss

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timing tells

11-30-2008 , 05:36 PM

#45

adamcadaver

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Quote:

Originally Posted by SizzlerFTW

....

seriously

Anyone saying durrr was making a -EV play should realize they are EXTREMELY pretentious and arrogant.

So stfu.

lol at your ignorance, you should research FoxwoodsFiend before you comment on this hand again.

11-30-2008 , 05:38 PM

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KB24

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if the board was 8 9 3 2 2 and durrrr shoved k 8 on river after flop and turn call, the hand would still be great but i doubt people would be as amazed. durrrr shoved 2nd pair here, simple concept and not too rare in heads up but because there was an ace, people are amazed

11-30-2008 , 07:18 PM

#47

SizzlerFTW

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Quote:

Originally Posted by adamcadaver

lol at your ignorance, you should research FoxwoodsFiend before you comment on this hand again.

you call me ignorant and imply that i dont know who foxwoodfiends is in the same sentence.

thats DOUBLE stupid

11-30-2008 , 07:36 PM

#48

quiquiriqui

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this thread has a crazy mix of pretty sweet short posts and then ppl like me ***** it all up (and if the past cycle is a real trend, we'll get some more strat posts soon .... but what will they be about?)

11-30-2008 , 07:38 PM

#49

FoxwoodsFiend

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Quote:

Originally Posted by KB24

um, those two situations are way way different.

11-30-2008 , 07:43 PM

#50

robgraves777

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pardon me for saying so, these two pros, leveling each other and playing for $300,000 pots, doesn't seem to differ too much from the $1/$2 where regs are playing other regs or even amateur vs amateur who are NOT leveling each other and simply can't let go of a straight vs a full house board or simple can't let go of KK when the ace is screaming at them on the board. do we give these pros too much credit? or am i a dunce? making any sense at all? probably not. but somewhere in here is a good thought that i had while reading this thread...

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