5 handed, we are deep, moi with $18k, 1 Villain has $3500 or so and other Villain2 is around $20-22k, covers.

Game is SLAGGY with std straddle and some blind raising by CO (UTG+1)

I am BB dealt 3 3

2 main villians here will call with any two, raise and shove with anything and play generally like the crazy Dr Amir, money is no object. This hand was played super slow with lots of tanking which was kinda strange for the night..

This hand comes up, note I have no more loot on me so was factoring this into the D, but I am just sort of gonna lay out what happened and see if anyone can make a case for NOT CALLING

CO raises straddle to $300 (std raise here)...........Button calls, I (BB) call others fold

FLOP (approx $1k) is 3 5 3 BINGO

I check, CO (Villain 1) bets $600, Button (Villain 2) calls, I call,

Pot approx $2800, turn is 5 I check, CO shoves for I think it was $2600, Button smooths (over pair ?) and I call

Pot approx $10,600 River is 5 I lead (?) for $5k, Villain 2 tanks, chuckles and shoves (covers me), does anyone lay this down ?

Given this how can u fold?

This is close imo. We all agree 33 =AA?

Yeah I think it's very close. I can only really see villain doing this with a 5 of AA, since he seems to think he's ahead, unless he thinks your FoS. I think call, although if you really don't want to busto you've only invested ~6k here and you'll get to see his hand anyway so you won't be killing yourself all night. Not sure how many better spots you can get though!

I call.

AA or even any overpair is wayyyyyy too big part of his range to fold here. Call and pray.

If you have 20k more behind I might fold but even then it's tough. The pot is laying almost 3 to 1 as it stands, I can't find a fold here.

No human being can fold quads amirite?

I'm calling.

Save boring you all waiting for more responses as got the ones I wanted

I called, Villain 2 who has me covered tabled JJ and the other dude had A5 for the quads, I assumed he thought he any over pair was the nuts here as per way hand went and my turn thoughts, just a feeling

Question is if we are say $30k deep is this more problematic, I rarely play this deep unless I am up a lot like on this night, rather play a higher limit for 150bb than 400-500 straddles like here

nvm I suck at reading comprehension

yeah, 30k deep this is more problematic but then villain's shoving range probably narrows and you MIGHT find a fold but like I said, even then it's really rough.

tough but i still call because aa,kk is a HUGE part of his range

i call

RESULTS?

Is this hand really real?

^results

if you mean that there is no hand worse than 33 here but better than AA, then yes.

but OP having AA and playing it like this would change the analysis of the river decision for various reasons. i'll let others eloborate

im thinking the check call on flop was the only bad play, but than again you said he isnt folding any 2 cards right???

I check the river unless he's really passive and dumb. Then I call almost always. As played, it's pretty tough to get away from, but few players would raise anything less than AA here when you take the line you took. There are probably more combos of 5s he can have than Aces. Some might try to blow you off a chop, I guess.

Sorry thought I posted , Villain 1 with small stack rivered quad 5s with A5o, Villain 2 with big stack tabled JJ and I had quad 3s....

I thought I could never fold quads here (ever) but was thinking at what bb range is it a stupid play seeing I could (thought) outplay all Villains (they had loot and were kinda crazy)...........

PS Yes this was real private game at Beverly Wilshire Wed night !

i don't play this high, but if i did i would know not to bet the river after taking this line

Interestingly my apartment mate (next door neighbor really) just amde an observation the shorties' shove only makes sense really with a 5 leaving villain with just overpairs.

I don't know about "only" but looking back the shortie's probably weighted in combos of 5

No reason at all shortie's play must make sense. He can be making a bad/desparate bluff after Hero checks.

calling

can't fold this

I bet the table went crazy when you two flipped your cards

I don't like your line too much against these two players.