Erick Lindgren Owes >$100k for 2p2 Fantasy Drafts, Won't Pay, Claims "Cash Broke" - Page 7 - High Stakes Poker Pot Limit and No Limit

Two Plus Two Forums Archived Forums Strategy High Stakes PL/NL

Erick Lindgren Owes >$100k for 2p2 Fantasy Drafts, Won't Pay, Claims "Cash Broke"

...

Page 7 of 22

First

2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 17

Last

Page 7 of 22

First

2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 17

Last

03-02-2012 , 08:27 PM

#151

$kill Game

Pooh-Bah

Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 4,120

Quote:

Originally Posted by Inyaface

Lindgren should be eating ramen and living in a box until he has paid everyone back in full. I could see being a bit more understanding when he had X hundred thousand dollars coming in per month from FTP and it was a matter of waiting for your turn to get paid.

Chances are he wont liquidate assets. I mean why would he want to! He probably likes his house and his cars. It's not enough that he was gifted a few million a year from being in the right place at the right time and has apparently continually squandered it but now he is probably going to go broke chasing losses to pay people back who won't see a dime. Or he runs good and everyone will get paid but people probably shouldn't hold there breath waiting for that to happen.

This is of course all based on what his perceived financial situation is. If he happens to have a few mil in gold stored away and just needs to get around to taking some bars to the pawn shop so he can write some 3k cheques then I apologize for my assumptions.

There is a 2p2er who was pretty stone broke and owed 40-50k out from sports bets he shouldn't have made. He has far from the same reputation to uphold as Lindgren and I believe has paid back everyone in full a few hundred at a time while I'm sure taking a big hit to his standard of living.

I don't want to say everyone in poker is a scumbag since there are still some people who will do the right thing even under tough circumstances but the list of good guys seems to be a lot shorter these days.

Amen. 2nd paragraph is why I decided to post about the situation after waiting 3 months to be paid.

03-02-2012 , 08:32 PM

#152

GQW

centurion

Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 113

Quote:

Originally Posted by timex

Anyone know what kind of car(s) Erick drives? I'm looking to buy a nicer car sometime soon and am looking for a motivated seller

wow you're so cool bro

03-02-2012 , 09:02 PM

#153

onebigdummy

adept

Join Date: Feb 2009 Posts: 754

he's from Bernie. what can you expect

03-02-2012 , 09:06 PM

#154

PokerFink

Carpal \'Tunnel

Join Date: Aug 2004 Posts: 12,085

Quote:

Originally Posted by donniccolo

Did that scumbag Chino pay his debts after his Epic Poker League win?

I doubt Chino's win even put a dent in all of his debts.

03-02-2012 , 09:19 PM

#155

Sea Salt

centurion

Join Date: Oct 2011 Posts: 147

Quote:

Originally Posted by ahh_snap

He isn't nearly as bad as people are saying in this thread. Like KGB said, he had the best team in the biggest league for quite some time then just got brutalized by injuries.
-------------------------------------------------------------
I'm guessing he feels blindsided by this right now considering how in the past he's always paid in July. Its still possible that his plan was trying to delay payment out of inconvenience then trying to scam people. Now its Edog's chance to prove which it is. How he comes off in public long term hasn't been decided yet.

He can liquidate assets and pay back the $ and we can chalk it up to him trying not to have to inconvenience himself for as long as possible, and this will be all forgotten in a month, or he can welch and be considered a piece of **** human being and never get another sponsorship opportunity no matter what happens with US legislation etc.

I admit I'm basing this on info from a few years ago, regarding his fantasy skill. He used to be terrible and neglectful of his team.

So the better question is this:

If he has improved and become a decent fantasy player, why was anyone stupid enough to include him in their league, given his history of slowpaying and dodging people?

I had assumed it was for reasons that my friend told me, basically that he was so terrible that it was worth the hassle and risk he may not pay. However, if he's comparable in skill to everyone else at this point, LOL at still letting him play.

03-02-2012 , 09:21 PM

#156

Sea Salt

centurion

Join Date: Oct 2011 Posts: 147

Quote:

Originally Posted by BT2

what is your source for the $250k figure?

I was told this by various people close to the organization. This might have changed a bit over time, but it was somewhere in that ballpark.

Ask around and you will find out that Erick was a HUGE degen, and shot off money everywhere, including backing people in high-stakes tournaments that were consistently losing.

03-02-2012 , 09:36 PM

#157

JPB383

Pooh-Bah

Join Date: Jun 2010 Posts: 5,740

Anyone want to sell me their debt? I'll pay cash in NYC

03-02-2012 , 09:51 PM

#158

BJLTNYK

Carpal \'Tunnel

Join Date: Sep 2005 Posts: 14,406

Quote:

Originally Posted by donniccolo

Did that scumbag Chino pay his debts after his Epic Poker League win?

Pretty sure a bunch of people literally followed him to the cage to get paid. Good luck getting money from Erick everyone

03-02-2012 , 09:56 PM

#159

joeyrulesall

Pooh-Bah

Join Date: Feb 2011 Posts: 3,532

Quote:

Originally Posted by GQW

wow you're so cool bro

Hi erick.

03-02-2012 , 10:56 PM

#160

MSauce

veteran

Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 3,363

Another depressing story about a degenerate live "poker pro". These guys have been washed up in poker for years and just living off their ftp money continuing to degen money away in the pit and it finally came crashing down.

GL to all the people owed, really hope you get paid soon.

03-02-2012 , 11:01 PM

#161

SleightOfJam

veteran

Join Date: Oct 2008 Posts: 2,375

Quote:

Originally Posted by irajfritziii

To still owe for your FFteam in march + a leap year day is totally douchy.

maybe negranu will do a vlog about this

Qft weak as balls.

03-02-2012 , 11:02 PM

#162

caseycjc

banned

Join Date: Aug 2004 Posts: 4,728

Quote:

Originally Posted by MSauce

GL to all the people owed, really hope you get paid soon.

Yea, I really hope he makes good on this soon.

03-03-2012 , 12:14 AM

#163

coltranedog

grinder

Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 588

Quote:

Originally Posted by JPB383

Anyone want to sell me their debt? I'll pay cash in NYC

What is the most you are willing to buy?

03-03-2012 , 12:19 AM

#164

Limpcallcallfold

veteran

Join Date: Oct 2011 Posts: 2,219

Quote:

Originally Posted by juke

according to Erica's twitter a Mercedes SLK

What's her and Edogs twitter?

03-03-2012 , 12:34 AM

#165

useless

adept

Join Date: Mar 2010 Posts: 949

Quote:

Originally Posted by MSauce

I thought he was an internet player?

But as ****ty as this situation is, if you're going to be betting this much cash you better know who you are doing it with.

03-03-2012 , 12:37 AM

#166

MSauce

veteran

Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 3,363

Quote:

Originally Posted by Limpcallcallfold

What's her and Edogs twitter?

@edogpoker
@thehitwoman

Last edited by MSauce; 03-03-2012 at 12:37 AM. Reason: 2,999

03-03-2012 , 01:24 AM

#167

Shane Stewart

grinder

Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 561

Quote:

Originally Posted by coltranedog

What is the most you are willing to buy?

I'm going to go out on a limb here and bet that he owes Haralabos >100k for bets outside of these 2p2 fantasy pools. People need to be spamming him on twitter along with his agent and his wife. Their twitter names have already been posted in this thread.

03-03-2012 , 01:26 AM

#168

raptor517

2013 November Nine

Join Date: Jan 2004 Posts: 9,749

Really sucks to read about this. I always thought he was a good guy. He saw me at naked fish one time and just bought me and my friends dinner for no reason. I didn't even really know him then. Hope he gets his stuff figured out and pays everyone back soon.

03-03-2012 , 01:30 AM

#169

JPB383

Pooh-Bah

Join Date: Jun 2010 Posts: 5,740

Quote:

Originally Posted by coltranedog

What is the most you are willing to buy?

Depends how much you have to sell w/ proof.

03-03-2012 , 03:04 AM

#170

asherma3

banned

Join Date: Feb 2010 Posts: 969

I just want him to post something worthy

03-03-2012 , 03:34 AM

#171

yougotG0T

adept

Join Date: Oct 2010 Posts: 868

Does this situation really warrant dragging Negreanu's name into this thread? Erick is his friend but this is not Daniel's debt and it's pretty ****ty to sully his name along with Erick's just because he hasn't put up a VLOG or w/e ranting and lashing out against one of his close friends. I'm sure DN isn't exactly cool with the way Erick has handled this. Daniel's a gambler and probably knows what that ****ty feeling of being owed money and being ignored feels like. But that doesn't mean he's going to come out against a close friend and publicly admonish him as I'm sure the majority of you wouldn't either to a good friend or relative - no matter how much you happen to disagree or disapprove of their actions.

03-03-2012 , 03:52 AM

#172

FatalError

Fantasy Site Rep

Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 8,184

during late 09/early 10 there was an incident on matchbook.com that resulted in the majority of credit players being cut off for a few weeks, during the downtime rumors circulated around the sports betting world that someone had busted a 1mm credit account during a heavy weekend of college betting and then couldn't pay. rumor was that it was lindgren, which seemed pretty crazy at the time but a whole lot less insane right now.

feel terrible for everyone owed, it's so sad we've gotten to a point where we can't even trust our heroes (erick has always been one of my top 3-4 favorite poker players)

03-03-2012 , 04:17 AM

#173

Hoopie1

Carpal \'Tunnel

Join Date: Jul 2008 Posts: 26,439

Quote:

Originally Posted by bigj0e03

Is there a thread about MIke "Inissint" Glasser on 2+2? He was the commissioner of the league and sent everyone he owed a blanket email claiming to be broke, and unlike Erick, he won't even respond to phone calls or emails

IIRC Glasser is a lawyer, so there is at least an outside chance that he might be prepared to work his way out of this (unless the amount is that eye-watering that this isn't a possibility).